RE: You make excellent points!

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Topic - What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Frihed89 21:43:05 10/15/09 (81)

1970s Karajan Is Par Excellence - Audiophile10000 08:33:52 10/20/09 (0)

Karajan is not alone in being a contentious artist but one who could produce great music - John C. - Aussie 20:30:11 10/17/09 (0)

Thanks for the thread. - Paul_A 20:07:47 10/17/09 (2)

RE: Thanks for the thread. - Chris from Lafayette 23:22:50 10/17/09 (1)

Oh Hell, I'd forgotten about them. - Paul_A 04:33:15 10/18/09 (0)

Good in Classical period choral works. Also Beethoven, Strauss, Bruckner, etc - billeames 17:04:55 10/17/09 (0)

Why is Karajan so vilified as a Nazi when many others, far more deserving of opprobrium, get a free pass? - bigi 12:25:54 10/17/09 (15)

RE: Why is Karajan so vilified as a Nazi when many others, far more deserving of opprobrium, get a free pass? - Brian Cheney 13:38:51 10/17/09 (14)

I think you prove my point - bigi 04:18:36 10/18/09 (11)

You make excellent points! - astralnavigator 06:35:02 10/18/09 (10)

RE: You make excellent points! - Brian Cheney 10:14:39 10/18/09 (9)

I can readily understand why Ormandy snubbed Karajan after the war - bigi 13:07:34 10/18/09 (8)

RE: I can readily understand why Ormandy snubbed Karajan after the war - Brian Cheney 13:38:09 10/18/09 (7)

We've kicked this one around enough, don't you think? May I... - bigi 01:28:17 10/19/09 (6)

RE: We've kicked this one around enough, don't you think? May I... - Brian Cheney 10:18:52 10/19/09 (5)

LOL! Of course, in a previous era... - bigi 01:52:30 10/20/09 (4)

RE: LOL! Of course, in a previous era... - Brian Cheney 14:33:23 10/20/09 (3)

Great stuff--thanks! (nt) - bigi 00:25:38 10/21/09 (0)

Wow - Your brush with greaetness! :-) [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 14:37:33 10/20/09 (1)

More like stomped by greatness! (nt) - Brian Cheney 15:10:51 10/20/09 (0)

RE: Why is Karajan so vilified as a Nazi when many others, far more deserving of opprobrium, get a free pass? - astralnavigator 14:41:17 10/17/09 (1)

RE: Why is Karajan so vilified as a Nazi when many others, far more deserving of opprobrium, get a free pass? - Brian Cheney 15:13:50 10/17/09 (0)

Getting back to the music. . . - Chris from Lafayette 10:57:26 10/17/09 (2)

RE: Getting back to the music. . . - astralnavigator 11:42:06 10/17/09 (1)

Yup - I've heard that late VPO Bruckner 8th - Excellent [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 11:51:29 10/17/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Tadlo 08:42:11 10/17/09 (0)

Menuhin on Karajan. - Paul_A 14:50:00 10/16/09 (2)

RE: Menuhin on Karajan - the truth! - astralnavigator 09:12:27 10/17/09 (1)

RE: Menuhin on Karajan - the truth! - Paul_A 09:57:36 10/17/09 (0)

People's impressions are often based on the non-musical... - M. Lucky 11:25:34 10/16/09 (17)

De-bunking the myths... - astralnavigator 12:38:43 10/16/09 (15)

De-bunking the de-bunk: HvK's Nazi past - M. Lucky 14:11:07 10/16/09 (14)

Unfortunately, the facts get in the way again... - astralnavigator 11:23:28 10/17/09 (12)

Your facts seem to be at variance... - M. Lucky 13:50:53 10/17/09 (6)

Not at all... - astralnavigator 14:11:03 10/17/09 (5)

I only know what I read in the papers... - M. Lucky 09:22:43 10/19/09 (4)

RE: I only know what I read in the papers... - astralnavigator 09:37:19 10/19/09 (3)

Yes, the anti-nazi bias in the American press... - M. Lucky 14:58:25 10/19/09 (2)

RE: Yes, the anti-nazi bias in the American press... - astralnavigator 15:52:16 10/19/09 (1)

RE: Yes, the anti-nazi bias in the American press... - M. Lucky 16:51:44 10/19/09 (0)

RE: Unfortunately, the facts get in the way again... - Brian Cheney 12:23:12 10/17/09 (4)

RE: Unfortunately, the facts get in the way again... - astralnavigator 14:16:47 10/17/09 (3)

RE: Unfortunately, the facts get in the way again... - Brian Cheney 15:25:21 10/17/09 (2)

RE: Unfortunately, the facts get in the way again... - astralnavigator 10:32:17 10/18/09 (1)

RE: Unfortunately, the facts get in the way again... - Brian Cheney 10:39:23 10/18/09 (0)

RE: De-bunking the de-bunk: HvK's Nazi past - Brian Cheney 14:29:27 10/16/09 (0)

DG... "soft?" I always found them shrill as did many reviewers in the 70-80s. nt - tinear 12:14:25 10/16/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Brian Cheney 10:39:07 10/16/09 (26)

Thanks to you and everyone.... Nt - Frihed89 17:58:21 10/16/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - astralnavigator 11:02:58 10/16/09 (24)

Joined the Nazi party "by default"--twice! - M. Lucky 16:49:47 10/16/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Brian Cheney 13:54:49 10/16/09 (19)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Logan 20:21:00 10/16/09 (16)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Brian Cheney 20:57:48 10/16/09 (15)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Logan 17:22:39 10/17/09 (14)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Brian Cheney 17:50:47 10/17/09 (13)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Logan 16:51:05 10/18/09 (12)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Brian Cheney 17:36:40 10/18/09 (11)

Brian -- not only not belligerent but . . . - goldenthal 15:02:25 10/20/09 (1)

RE: Brian -- not only not belligerent but . . . - Brian Cheney 15:13:57 10/20/09 (0)

Brian -- not only not belligerent but . . . - goldenthal 14:06:01 10/20/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Logan 19:14:15 10/19/09 (1)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Brian Cheney 20:37:02 10/19/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - astralnavigator 17:59:22 10/18/09 (5)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Brian Cheney 18:20:26 10/18/09 (4)

I'm not so sure - Chris from Lafayette 21:15:34 10/18/09 (3)

RE: I'm not so sure - Brian Cheney 10:26:41 10/19/09 (2)

RE: I'm not so sure - goldenthal 15:02:10 10/20/09 (0)

RE: I'm not so sure - goldenthal 14:15:55 10/20/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - astralnavigator 18:55:39 10/16/09 (1)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Brian Cheney 20:05:08 10/16/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - Chris from Lafayette 12:32:48 10/16/09 (2)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - astralnavigator 12:46:14 10/16/09 (1)

I agree about the paranoia - Chris from Lafayette 13:01:54 10/16/09 (0)

My Dad loved him... - docw 09:47:36 10/16/09 (0)

OK here are some negatives... - John N 08:58:24 10/16/09 (1)

RE: OK here are some negatives... - goldenthal 14:46:56 10/20/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - astralnavigator 05:26:36 10/16/09 (0)

RE: What is it with people's impressions of Karajan - jult52 05:03:56 10/16/09 (0)

Karajan was often great, and also often uninspiring and lifeless - bigi 01:10:29 10/16/09 (1)

Agreed. nt - classfolkphile 07:38:58 10/16/09 (0)

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RE: You make excellent points! - Brian Cheney 10:14:39 10/18/09 (9)

I can readily understand why Ormandy snubbed Karajan after the war - bigi 13:07:34 10/18/09 (8)

RE: I can readily understand why Ormandy snubbed Karajan after the war - Brian Cheney 13:38:09 10/18/09 (7)

We've kicked this one around enough, don't you think? May I... - bigi 01:28:17 10/19/09 (6)

RE: We've kicked this one around enough, don't you think? May I... - Brian Cheney 10:18:52 10/19/09 (5)

LOL! Of course, in a previous era... - bigi 01:52:30 10/20/09 (4)

RE: LOL! Of course, in a previous era... - Brian Cheney 14:33:23 10/20/09 (3)

Great stuff--thanks! (nt) - bigi 00:25:38 10/21/09 (0)

Wow - Your brush with greaetness! :-) [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 14:37:33 10/20/09 (1)

More like stomped by greatness! (nt) - Brian Cheney 15:10:51 10/20/09 (0)

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