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Here's why....

Posted by D Harvey (M) on March 8, 2008 at 21:06:44

In Reply to: Mr. Harvey, One Question...... posted by Todd Krieger on March 8, 2008 at 20:08:34:

First of all, I wrote that last post in about 10 or 15 minutes.

As to why I take such offense to your posts lately....I know what it takes to get to the level of the musicians in a top tier orchestra. Anyone who knows what kind of insane odds you have to beat no matter how good you are just to land a gig you can live off of playing that music would not make the accusation you have made here so cavalierly. I know you've never seen Dudamel live. Have you ever seen Julia Fisher live? Or any of the classical musicians you've asserted are fooling the world with phony or doctored video performances? I suspect the answer is no across the board. Yet you have no problem coming out and saying point blank that their recorded performances are not honest. And now you assert that DG (or someone at DG) has perpetrated a Hatto-esque fraud on behalf of Dudamel--after DG themselves were the victim of some of the Hatto thefts? It's pretty rich that you can brush aside the difficulty of noise reduction aside by claiming that this--and time-stretching--can be done without a hint of distortion, while one of the cornerstones of your argument against the evils of pitch correction--a directly related technology--is that the studio trickery makes all vocalists indistinguishable from one another. Is this a test to see how duplicitous you can get before someone calls you on it?

The Hatto fraud was possible because it was perpetrated by one or maybe two people alone who fooled for a time critics who had gotten a little too confident in the integrity of EVERYONE in the classical music business.

By contrast, you are suggesting a fraud is now underway that would require the direct complicity or at least the gross negligence of all the musicians and peripheral staff in a number of top-tier orchestras, reviewers who have seen this performer, and at least one of the world's largest classical music labels. You would have us believe that hundreds of top professionals the world over are either idiots or, even worse, have overnight forgone all sense of integrity, and all just to advance the career of Gustavo Dudamel. Not even one member of the orchestras, audiences, or recording staffs has stepped forward to utter a peep that would support your claims--and, in contrast to the Hatto situation, we all know for a fact that those people do in fact exist. You take all of this and a couple recordings, most of them from You Tube, to mean that you are the last man on earth with integrity, brains, and ears. The rest of us are idiots and liars. That almost every shred of "proof" you submit is refuted by people who know more than you do is meaningless to you--you just ignore the explanations and move on to find some other "unexplainable" phenomenon.

I submit that the odds are pretty overwhelming that in fact it is not the musicians who have actually worked with Dudamel and the audience members who have attended his performances who are lacking intelligence and scruples. It's you.

dh

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