The 47 Labs Gaincard has been getting lots of positive press. It is, by all accounts, a step forward in music reproduction. I will not dispute the accolades this unit has recieved....I have not heard so I cannot comment on the sound quality. I have no reason to doubt that it does indeed sound wonderful.What I wish to solicit responses on is the price being charged for the unit. It looks as though $3000.00 US is the lowest retail price it can be had for. Not a bad price for a quality amp in and of itself. But (and this is a big but) this amp is made with a handful of very common parts (Indeed this fact seems to be a conerstone of the advertising for the product.).
I am not accusing Sakura Systems of deliberately trying to fleece anyone, nor am i saying the product is not worth the money (value is, after all, entierely subjective.) But with obvious use of minimal parts, I am surprised that few have complained about the price.Moreover, if this is a superior design, the market should be brimming with knock-offs (9 common parts and a power supply....who could ask for a better item to make cheap copies of?). For gosh sakes, Mike Creek could put the circuit in one of his OBH boxes, sell it for $350.00 and make a mint.
What about DIY...if ever there was a product ripe for DIY picking, this would be it.I am very likely uninformed and this issue may well have been talked about already....I just have not seen it.
Please note that this is not to slight the product, 47 labs or any owners of the Gaincard. I am just curious.
All opinons welcome
thanks,
Rob
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Topic - On the economics of the Gaincard - dado4 05:04:26 12/13/01 (97)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - Werner 23:43:11 12/13/01 (3)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - dado4 07:45:38 12/14/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - Mark P 07:12:49 12/14/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - vonfont 07:04:23 12/14/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - cfraser 20:47:31 12/13/01 (0)
- Its not the price - its the bull - general comment - Rodney Gold 20:18:10 12/13/01 (0)
- You seem reasonably intellegent enough - JeffC 17:43:37 12/13/01 (8)
- Re: Seems like the Korsun-Red Rose controversy is relevant - Bruce Righter 20:40:21 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: You seem reasonably intellegent enough - dado4 18:19:10 12/13/01 (6)
- Re: You seem reasonably intellegent enough - Ken Lyon 20:22:25 12/13/01 (5)
- Repost (edit) - Ken Lyon 22:29:24 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: Stereophile on Gaincard - Bruce Righter 20:32:47 12/13/01 (3)
- Re: Stereophile on Gaincard - Steve Eddy 23:50:01 12/13/01 (2)
- are you serious?? - chiggy 10:47:18 12/14/01 (1)
- Probably user error on their part - Ed Sawyer 15:05:38 12/14/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - sam9 14:38:41 12/13/01 (0)
- THANKS!! - dado4 11:56:51 12/13/01 (0)
- READ BETWEEN THE LINES! - ludwigvan968 10:49:52 12/13/01 (3)
- No need to shout, - pmkap 11:47:02 12/13/01 (2)
- sorry for the shouting. - ludwigvan968 11:52:29 12/13/01 (1)
- Actually, I think I misspoke.... - pmkap 12:54:27 12/13/01 (0)
- On the formula which governs our purchasing decisions. - john dem 10:33:27 12/13/01 (9)
- This formula is incomplete - orejones 02:58:20 12/14/01 (0)
- Re: On the formula which governs our purchasing decisions. - Rich 10:44:29 12/13/01 (7)
- Re: On the formula which governs our purchasing decisions. - john dem 10:51:20 12/13/01 (6)
- Electricity (nt) - Rich 10:57:39 12/13/01 (5)
- Re: Electricity (nt) - john dem 11:08:06 12/13/01 (4)
- Electricity is not even thought about... - Rich 11:12:49 12/13/01 (3)
- Oh come on now Rich.... - Joe S 07:31:26 12/14/01 (0)
- Re: Electricity is not even thought about... - Robert H. 12:43:30 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: Electricity is not even thought about... - john dem 11:24:57 12/13/01 (0)
- Norh LeAmp - Tim Verry 09:42:23 12/13/01 (1)
- Look at Harmonicdiscord.com/norh - zorpman 14:44:30 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - rcrump 09:16:15 12/13/01 (11)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - jcarr 13:54:04 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - dado4 09:46:17 12/13/01 (9)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - jcarr 14:08:09 12/13/01 (3)
- OOOUUCHH! - dado4 17:49:06 12/13/01 (0)
- whoa! - cubsfan 15:48:30 12/13/01 (1)
- Re: whoa! - jcarr 17:45:42 12/13/01 (0)
- No such thing as a "rip-off" - Norm 09:58:00 12/13/01 (4)
- Re: No such thing as a "rip-off" - Joe S 10:25:53 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: No such thing as a "rip-off" - dado4 10:21:38 12/13/01 (2)
- Re: No such thing as a "rip-off" - Norm 10:57:17 12/13/01 (1)
- Re: No such thing as a "rip-off" - dado4 11:03:53 12/13/01 (0)
- Can the copies sound anywhere near as good or have any resale value? - Norm 08:41:21 12/13/01 (3)
- Maybe you won´t get a high resale value, but - orejones 03:06:13 12/14/01 (0)
- Re: Can the copies sound anywhere near as good or have any resale value? - dado4 09:15:59 12/13/01 (1)
- Answers.... - Joe S 09:23:01 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: "this amp is made with a handful of very common parts" - Rob Doorack 08:25:32 12/13/01 (11)
- Re: "this amp is made with a handful of very common parts" - dado4 08:58:07 12/13/01 (10)
- So you have never actually looked inside a Gaincard? - Rob Doorack 09:13:15 12/13/01 (9)
- Re: So you have never actually looked inside a Gaincard? - dado4 09:28:48 12/13/01 (8)
- Re: So you have never actually looked inside a Gaincard? - Rob Doorack 09:49:40 12/13/01 (3)
- Re: So you have never actually looked inside a Gaincard? - dado4 11:02:40 12/13/01 (2)
- Re: So you have never actually looked inside a Gaincard? - Robert H. 13:05:06 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: So you have never actually looked inside a Gaincard? - Rob Doorack 12:27:28 12/13/01 (0)
- Without experiencing one in person your discussion is pretty invalid, IMHO. - Ed Sawyer 09:40:59 12/13/01 (3)
- Re: Without experiencing one in person your discussion is pretty invalid, IMHO. - Sordidman 10:13:47 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: Without experiencing one in person your discussion is pretty invalid, IMHO. - dado4 10:11:20 12/13/01 (1)
- Re: Without experiencing one in person your discussion is pretty invalid, IMHO. - Ed Sawyer 10:45:14 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - 6bq5 08:14:15 12/13/01 (4)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - dado4 08:48:30 12/13/01 (2)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - tkg 18:44:38 12/13/01 (1)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - dado4 19:20:06 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - dado4 08:48:23 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - drystream 07:33:11 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - chiggy 07:22:13 12/13/01 (22)
- Re: A terrible, dawning suspicion. - Mark P 12:09:53 12/13/01 (1)
- 47 Lab is behind the CD - chiggy 12:21:21 12/13/01 (0)
- Judging any commercial product from a DIY standpoint ... - sirius 09:33:45 12/13/01 (11)
- wrong - chiggy 12:09:52 12/13/01 (9)
- Re: wrong - Robert H. 12:55:46 12/13/01 (8)
- silly rabbit - chiggy 15:51:14 12/13/01 (2)
- Re: silly rabbit - Robert H. 16:28:27 12/13/01 (1)
- you flatter yourself - chiggy 10:38:08 12/14/01 (0)
- Re: wrong - jcarr 13:38:07 12/13/01 (4)
- Moniker should read jusbe above. nt - jusbe 09:36:15 12/13/01 (0)
- To paraphrase 47 labs.... - Joe S 09:16:31 12/13/01 (3)
- Re: To paraphrase 47 labs.... - Steve Eddy 00:19:03 12/14/01 (0)
- Simple - Edp 10:50:43 12/13/01 (1)
- True, and I guess.... - Joe S 17:42:27 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - dado4 08:39:24 12/13/01 (2)
- wires and such - chiggy 10:43:40 12/14/01 (1)
- Re: wires and such - dado4 11:10:43 12/14/01 (0)
- I agree with Chiggy... - Rich 08:18:19 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - Robert H. 06:38:50 12/13/01 (0)
- DIY 'Gainclones' already exist. - jusbe 06:33:22 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - Paul L 06:17:38 12/13/01 (4)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - steve b 10:24:18 12/13/01 (1)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - Robert H. 19:16:57 12/13/01 (0)
- Re: On the economics of the Gaincard - dado4 06:38:44 12/13/01 (0)
- the Gainclone .. - agattu 06:31:33 12/13/01 (0)