Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes

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Topic - Very bad news for SACD . ... CEO of Sony BMG , and president of Sony Music , love DualDisc , ... and so do the CEOs ... - ZS KEKL 23:01:05 08/24/04 (130)

ZS Kekl or Teresa - Which is goofier? (Poll) - Craig Wilson 12:08:06 08/26/04 (8)

You need to add a lot more names to your "poll" - racerguy 14:35:46 08/27/04 (2)

Re: You need to add a lot more names to your "poll" - Bobo U2 17:11:15 08/28/04 (1)

Re: You need to add a lot more names to your "poll" - racerguy 17:43:13 08/28/04 (0)

duilawyer - lazarus28 12:21:21 08/27/04 (1)

Tie - JustinPoss 10:52:15 08/27/04 (0)

I vote for Teresa - Eric LeRouge 13:10:18 08/26/04 (2)

don't you know that . . . - lazarus28 12:27:43 08/27/04 (1)

Damn, you're right. That explains why I still have no response - Eric LeRouge 04:17:33 08/30/04 (0)

October's a great launch date--the month when the dead become the undead! - jdaniel@jps.net 07:42:08 08/26/04 (0)

Bawhahahahahhahahahaw - navman 13:50:31 08/25/04 (2)

Be careful -- you are sounding perilously close to the edge yourself. {n.t.} - Martin419 14:50:17 08/25/04 (1)

Yeah I probably do .... - navman 17:41:27 08/25/04 (0)

Wow! Music + Video! A music video! - jdaniel@jps.net 07:53:42 08/25/04 (12)

All young people--throw away your i-Pods now! - jdaniel@jps.net 08:09:27 08/25/04 (11)

This is not your lucky day, I guess - Eric LeRouge 09:07:35 08/26/04 (0)

Re: All young people--throw away your i-Pods now! - Martin419 08:39:50 08/25/04 (9)

Re: All young people--throw away your i-Pods now! - jdaniel@jps.net 09:23:24 08/25/04 (8)

Your beloved SACD struck out at the majors . DualDisc is going to hit lots of Home Runs . LOL ( nt ) - ZS KEKL 10:01:02 08/25/04 (0)

Re: All young people--throw away your i-Pods now! - Martin419 09:50:27 08/25/04 (6)

Re: All young people--throw away your i-Pods now! - jdaniel@jps.net 14:15:44 08/25/04 (0)

"Thatâ€™s because DVD offers more than CD." It sure does...they're called 'movies'. :-) - Methos 10:07:23 08/25/04 (4)

The only shrinking category is CD (along with pure CD players) . . . - Martin419 10:28:43 08/25/04 (3)

If someone truly wants 'the multimedia experience', then they'll buy the DVD-V/CD dual disc... - Methos 10:46:02 08/25/04 (2)

But most music albums don't come as feature films . . . - Martin419 11:18:25 08/25/04 (1)

Re: But most music albums don't come as feature films . . . - walter 05:35:03 08/26/04 (0)

You've GOT to be kidding me... - hi-rez insider 07:19:48 08/25/04 (0)

I bet you're enjoying sacd's slow death ;-) - NonA 06:27:31 08/25/04 (3)

I think I'm enjoying it more than ZS - Jazz Inmate 10:49:17 08/25/04 (2)

we're all frustrated because... - NonA 11:21:43 08/25/04 (1)

"Perilous" and "fate".... - NonA 11:31:02 08/25/04 (0)

Must be getting bad for Kekl - flyingdutchman 02:40:56 08/25/04 (0)

SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Teresa 00:16:00 08/25/04 (97)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes 08:26:11 08/25/04 (72)

I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - Teresa 22:32:35 08/25/04 (14)

Re: I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - Neil Wilkes 02:41:07 08/26/04 (13)

wrong calculation - tunenut 09:24:44 08/26/04 (2)

Re: wrong calculation - Neil Wilkes 09:52:31 08/26/04 (1)

Re: wrong calculation - tunenut 10:45:04 08/26/04 (0)

Re: I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - LiquidMidrange 07:31:30 08/26/04 (5)

Re: I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - Martin419 09:08:45 08/26/04 (4)

Re: I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - LiquidMidrange 09:11:39 08/26/04 (3)

Right..the transient rise times in DSD filtering is 1/10 that of even 192khz.. - theaudiohiffle 12:13:16 08/26/04 (2)

Nonsense.. - Frank.. 16:03:26 08/26/04 (1)

Not quite nonsense... - theaudiohiffle 18:03:26 08/26/04 (0)

Those are not the facts but terrible distortions which can easily be proven false - Teresa 02:57:44 08/26/04 (3)

Re: Those are not the facts but terrible distortions which can easily be proven false - Neil Wilkes 05:43:29 08/26/04 (2)

Re: Those are not the facts but terrible distortions which can easily be proven false - LiquidMidrange 13:39:42 08/26/04 (1)

Re: Those are not the facts but terrible distortions which can easily be proven false - Neil Wilkes 15:53:34 08/26/04 (0)

SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, and it doesn't need a hat, cocked of otherwise - Teresa 22:21:43 08/25/04 (1)

32/40/64 bit - RBP 10:29:45 08/26/04 (0)

"Which knocks SACD into a cocked hat." - Methos 10:15:29 08/25/04 (54)

Re: "Which knocks SACD into a cocked hat." - Neil Wilkes 10:52:22 08/25/04 (53)

Total bald-faced out right lies: I have owned both DVD-Audio and SACD. - Teresa 22:16:02 08/25/04 (19)

Engineer Elliot Mazer says " I love the sound of DVD-A at 192/24 . Nothing sounds as good as that " . Mazer has ... - ZS KEKL 22:51:02 08/25/04 (18)

Does DVD-A even offer a high-rez 2 channel layer? - jdaniel@jps.net 07:31:37 08/26/04 (1)

DVD-A can - John Kotches 10:38:49 08/26/04 (0)

The funy part is Mazer's quote does not say what you claim it says. - Duilawyer 06:32:32 08/26/04 (1)

You are wrong . Mazer was asked to compare DVD-A vs. SACD . If you click on the link to Mazer's comments ... - ZS KEKL 09:41:25 08/26/04 (0)

those are all commercial ROCK recordings I trust the ears of engineers that actually make realistic sounding recordings - Teresa 23:32:05 08/25/04 (13)

Re: " Why did the labels choose SACD ? " . John Eargle says " Sony was generous " . It was nothing about the sound ... - ZS KEKL 00:25:54 08/26/04 (12)

John Eargle still records all his projects DSD even though Sony's technical assistance & equipment loans ended 2 years - Teresa 02:40:36 08/26/04 (11)

But probably just because he's used to it, - head_unit 15:20:21 09/18/04 (0)

Blu-ray ? - RBP 10:39:25 08/26/04 (9)

Can you post more details about those independent DVD-As? - Eric LeRouge 11:20:51 08/26/04 (8)

Got it, thanks! -t- - RBP 12:52:25 08/26/04 (0)

Eric, did you get my mail? Something bounced.. - RBP 12:44:28 08/26/04 (1)

Yes I did, both messages, thanks - Eric LeRouge 12:49:51 08/26/04 (0)

RE: - RBP 11:27:51 08/26/04 (4)

Yep -- if there was a way to order them from a single source, we'd be interested to know . . . - Martin419 11:48:39 08/26/04 (2)

Re: Yep -- if there was a way to order them from a single source, we'd be interested to know . . . - RBP 12:00:08 08/26/04 (1)

OK. e-mail sent. {n.t.} - Martin419 12:32:30 08/26/04 (0)

Re: RE: - Eric LeRouge 11:45:18 08/26/04 (0)

weve been telling SACD fanatics about these documented limitations for a while... - NonA 11:25:20 08/25/04 (30)

Not so fast. - Craig Wilson 13:53:29 08/25/04 (7)

Re: Not so fast. - LiquidMidrange 09:14:23 08/26/04 (0)

FYI. ive listen to both SACD and DVD-A extensively and so have most others in these forums... - NonA 04:56:24 08/26/04 (5)

Re: FYI. ive listen to both SACD and DVD-A extensively and so have most others in these forums... - LiquidMidrange 10:55:29 08/26/04 (4)

isn't this something??! - NonA 11:44:42 08/26/04 (3)

Re: isn't this something??! - LiquidMidrange 11:58:10 08/26/04 (2)

Re: isn't this something??! - NonA 12:11:32 08/26/04 (1)

Re: isn't this something??! - LiquidMidrange 12:56:30 08/26/04 (0)

Re: weve been telling SACD fanatics about these documented limitations for a while... - Neil Wilkes 11:31:48 08/25/04 (21)

Re: weve been telling SACD fanatics about these documented limitations for a while... - LiquidMidrange 11:59:54 08/26/04 (0)

My theory... - NonA 11:48:02 08/25/04 (19)

You just keep on rationalizing your choice of DVD-A, maybe you can convince yourself it's better. :-) nt - Methos 12:03:50 08/25/04 (18)

Re: You just keep on rationalizing your choice of DVD-A, maybe you can convince yourself it's better. :-) nt - LiquidMidrange 09:16:44 08/26/04 (7)

the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Christine Tham 15:21:49 08/27/04 (6)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Martin419 02:02:04 08/31/04 (5)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Christine Tham 05:34:08 08/31/04 (4)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Martin419 05:54:39 08/31/04 (3)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Christine Tham 13:50:24 08/31/04 (2)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Martin419 08:19:48 09/01/04 (1)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Christine Tham 04:45:32 09/02/04 (0)

Hey Methos, id be curious to know what is you favorite DVD-A sonically and contentwise?? nt - NonA 04:59:38 08/26/04 (9)

For content, I like the R.E.M. albums, any of them. for SQ, I was impressed by my friends Teldec St. Matthew Passion. - Methos 10:00:37 08/26/04 (8)

thanks, dont have either of those not much of REM fan and ill check St. Matthew Passion. nt - NonA 13:26:29 08/26/04 (7)

Matthaus Passion is a must-have title - Eric LeRouge 13:36:41 08/26/04 (6)

I agree - superb - Christine Tham 15:14:46 08/27/04 (0)

if only i could find where to buy it...i looked... - NonA 15:25:06 08/26/04 (4)

Here . . . - Martin419 15:53:07 08/26/04 (3)

Bought it. thanks. nt - NonA 16:13:00 08/26/04 (2)

Let us know what you think when you get it - Eric LeRouge 07:12:40 08/27/04 (1)

I sure will. DVD-A titles take a while to get here I had 2 i wanted to review: - NonA 08:09:40 08/27/04 (0)

information theory - tunenut 11:23:22 08/25/04 (1)

Yes, he pulled a naive calculation out of his hat...despite the fact it bears no relation to the actual format. nt - Methos 11:39:57 08/25/04 (0)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - dusted 05:56:55 08/25/04 (23)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - gw 10:19:42 08/25/04 (22)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes 11:36:05 08/25/04 (21)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - gw 13:31:43 08/25/04 (20)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes 13:45:31 08/25/04 (19)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - LiquidMidrange 09:20:55 08/26/04 (15)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes 09:32:45 08/26/04 (14)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Martin419 12:26:38 08/26/04 (11)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes 12:39:43 08/26/04 (10)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes 17:58:11 08/26/04 (9)

Note . . . - Martin419 04:54:50 08/27/04 (1)

Re: Note . . . - Neil Wilkes 05:03:33 08/27/04 (0)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - LiquidMidrange 18:32:38 08/26/04 (6)

Ho yes, - Frank.. 04:19:21 08/27/04 (2)

Re: Ho yes, - LiquidMidrange 14:57:43 08/28/04 (1)

Re: Ho yes, - Frank.. 04:26:39 08/30/04 (0)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes 01:46:57 08/27/04 (2)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - LiquidMidrange 14:59:56 08/28/04 (1)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - John Kotches 10:10:14 08/30/04 (0)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - LiquidMidrange 12:14:49 08/26/04 (1)

DualDisc is an interrim format. - Frank.. 16:36:21 08/26/04 (1)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Martin419 15:38:41 08/25/04 (0)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - gw 15:19:23 08/25/04 (1)

Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - simon wagstaff 09:58:07 08/26/04 (0)

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Re: SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, DualDisc is a VIDEO format, Mr. DVD-A Cheerleader re-read Sony's quote: - Neil Wilkes 08:26:11 08/25/04 (72)

I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - Teresa 22:32:35 08/25/04 (14)

Re: I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - Neil Wilkes 02:41:07 08/26/04 (13)

wrong calculation - tunenut 09:24:44 08/26/04 (2)

Re: wrong calculation - Neil Wilkes 09:52:31 08/26/04 (1)

Re: wrong calculation - tunenut 10:45:04 08/26/04 (0)

Re: I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - LiquidMidrange 07:31:30 08/26/04 (5)

Re: I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - Martin419 09:08:45 08/26/04 (4)

Re: I discovered why you lie about SACD, you are a DVD-A Producer & Mix Engineer - LiquidMidrange 09:11:39 08/26/04 (3)

Right..the transient rise times in DSD filtering is 1/10 that of even 192khz.. - theaudiohiffle 12:13:16 08/26/04 (2)

Nonsense.. - Frank.. 16:03:26 08/26/04 (1)

Not quite nonsense... - theaudiohiffle 18:03:26 08/26/04 (0)

Those are not the facts but terrible distortions which can easily be proven false - Teresa 02:57:44 08/26/04 (3)

Re: Those are not the facts but terrible distortions which can easily be proven false - Neil Wilkes 05:43:29 08/26/04 (2)

Re: Those are not the facts but terrible distortions which can easily be proven false - LiquidMidrange 13:39:42 08/26/04 (1)

Re: Those are not the facts but terrible distortions which can easily be proven false - Neil Wilkes 15:53:34 08/26/04 (0)

SACD is the High Resolution Audio format, and it doesn't need a hat, cocked of otherwise - Teresa 22:21:43 08/25/04 (1)

32/40/64 bit - RBP 10:29:45 08/26/04 (0)

"Which knocks SACD into a cocked hat." - Methos 10:15:29 08/25/04 (54)

Re: "Which knocks SACD into a cocked hat." - Neil Wilkes 10:52:22 08/25/04 (53)

Total bald-faced out right lies: I have owned both DVD-Audio and SACD. - Teresa 22:16:02 08/25/04 (19)

Engineer Elliot Mazer says " I love the sound of DVD-A at 192/24 . Nothing sounds as good as that " . Mazer has ... - ZS KEKL 22:51:02 08/25/04 (18)

Does DVD-A even offer a high-rez 2 channel layer? - jdaniel@jps.net 07:31:37 08/26/04 (1)

DVD-A can - John Kotches 10:38:49 08/26/04 (0)

The funy part is Mazer's quote does not say what you claim it says. - Duilawyer 06:32:32 08/26/04 (1)

You are wrong . Mazer was asked to compare DVD-A vs. SACD . If you click on the link to Mazer's comments ... - ZS KEKL 09:41:25 08/26/04 (0)

those are all commercial ROCK recordings I trust the ears of engineers that actually make realistic sounding recordings - Teresa 23:32:05 08/25/04 (13)

Re: " Why did the labels choose SACD ? " . John Eargle says " Sony was generous " . It was nothing about the sound ... - ZS KEKL 00:25:54 08/26/04 (12)

John Eargle still records all his projects DSD even though Sony's technical assistance & equipment loans ended 2 years - Teresa 02:40:36 08/26/04 (11)

But probably just because he's used to it, - head_unit 15:20:21 09/18/04 (0)

Blu-ray ? - RBP 10:39:25 08/26/04 (9)

Can you post more details about those independent DVD-As? - Eric LeRouge 11:20:51 08/26/04 (8)

Got it, thanks! -t- - RBP 12:52:25 08/26/04 (0)

Eric, did you get my mail? Something bounced.. - RBP 12:44:28 08/26/04 (1)

Yes I did, both messages, thanks - Eric LeRouge 12:49:51 08/26/04 (0)

RE: - RBP 11:27:51 08/26/04 (4)

Yep -- if there was a way to order them from a single source, we'd be interested to know . . . - Martin419 11:48:39 08/26/04 (2)

Re: Yep -- if there was a way to order them from a single source, we'd be interested to know . . . - RBP 12:00:08 08/26/04 (1)

OK. e-mail sent. {n.t.} - Martin419 12:32:30 08/26/04 (0)

Re: RE: - Eric LeRouge 11:45:18 08/26/04 (0)

weve been telling SACD fanatics about these documented limitations for a while... - NonA 11:25:20 08/25/04 (30)

Not so fast. - Craig Wilson 13:53:29 08/25/04 (7)

Re: Not so fast. - LiquidMidrange 09:14:23 08/26/04 (0)

FYI. ive listen to both SACD and DVD-A extensively and so have most others in these forums... - NonA 04:56:24 08/26/04 (5)

Re: FYI. ive listen to both SACD and DVD-A extensively and so have most others in these forums... - LiquidMidrange 10:55:29 08/26/04 (4)

isn't this something??! - NonA 11:44:42 08/26/04 (3)

Re: isn't this something??! - LiquidMidrange 11:58:10 08/26/04 (2)

Re: isn't this something??! - NonA 12:11:32 08/26/04 (1)

Re: isn't this something??! - LiquidMidrange 12:56:30 08/26/04 (0)

Re: weve been telling SACD fanatics about these documented limitations for a while... - Neil Wilkes 11:31:48 08/25/04 (21)

Re: weve been telling SACD fanatics about these documented limitations for a while... - LiquidMidrange 11:59:54 08/26/04 (0)

My theory... - NonA 11:48:02 08/25/04 (19)

You just keep on rationalizing your choice of DVD-A, maybe you can convince yourself it's better. :-) nt - Methos 12:03:50 08/25/04 (18)

Re: You just keep on rationalizing your choice of DVD-A, maybe you can convince yourself it's better. :-) nt - LiquidMidrange 09:16:44 08/26/04 (7)

the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Christine Tham 15:21:49 08/27/04 (6)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Martin419 02:02:04 08/31/04 (5)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Christine Tham 05:34:08 08/31/04 (4)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Martin419 05:54:39 08/31/04 (3)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Christine Tham 13:50:24 08/31/04 (2)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Martin419 08:19:48 09/01/04 (1)

Re: the problem is that the "simpler recording chain" is more marketing hype than reality ... - Christine Tham 04:45:32 09/02/04 (0)

Hey Methos, id be curious to know what is you favorite DVD-A sonically and contentwise?? nt - NonA 04:59:38 08/26/04 (9)

For content, I like the R.E.M. albums, any of them. for SQ, I was impressed by my friends Teldec St. Matthew Passion. - Methos 10:00:37 08/26/04 (8)

thanks, dont have either of those not much of REM fan and ill check St. Matthew Passion. nt - NonA 13:26:29 08/26/04 (7)

Matthaus Passion is a must-have title - Eric LeRouge 13:36:41 08/26/04 (6)

I agree - superb - Christine Tham 15:14:46 08/27/04 (0)

if only i could find where to buy it...i looked... - NonA 15:25:06 08/26/04 (4)

Here . . . - Martin419 15:53:07 08/26/04 (3)

Bought it. thanks. nt - NonA 16:13:00 08/26/04 (2)

Let us know what you think when you get it - Eric LeRouge 07:12:40 08/27/04 (1)

I sure will. DVD-A titles take a while to get here I had 2 i wanted to review: - NonA 08:09:40 08/27/04 (0)

information theory - tunenut 11:23:22 08/25/04 (1)

Yes, he pulled a naive calculation out of his hat...despite the fact it bears no relation to the actual format. nt - Methos 11:39:57 08/25/04 (0)