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Impressions-EarthSafe Schumann Resonance Generator

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Posted on March 4, 2008 at 18:30:53
kavakidd
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EarthSafe Impressions:

I have been the last person who would ever think that an electronic product that was not connected to my system in any way could make improvements in the sound – let alone substantial improvements. I now stand corrected.

1. The immediate first impression is that the whole system has been given a shot of testosterone. Sound is more powerful (without being louder) with greater extension at both extremes and a greater sense of “ease”. Bass sounds better defined, deeper more tuneful and more powerful. Rhythmic drive also seems improved as witnessed by more persistent tapping of the ol’ feet. There's even a sense that some sort of additional room correction i.e. Bass Traps had been added.

2. The soundstage while not necessarily “larger” in dimensions – is filled in much better and has a more organic sounding structure. Less “scattered” sounding. To use a weak analogy, it’s kind of like comparing a Jackson Pollock painting to a fine tapestry or oriental carpet. All of the colors remain but they are more finely interwoven if that makes any sense. Air around instruments remains but it almost as if you can hear that air instead of it just being a blank space in the stage. Instruments take on a “rounder” tone whether they be percussion, winds, brass or strings. Listening to an old John Williams solo LP on Columbia, his guitar has more “body”, not just in the sound of the strings but in the guitar body itself. Very natural and realistic. Voices, too, sound more natural and more as if they are emanating from an actual human being.

3. Little details, sometimes missed before, are more readily apparent while not standing out or drawing attention to themselves in the conventional sense of the word. On Bing & Rosie’s “Fancy Meeting You Here” I heard quick intakes of air by Bing that I don’t recall noticing before.

4. I have, thus far, listened to a wide variety of recordings (& genres) – live recordings, studio recordings, Folk, Rock, Classical, Operetta (a la Gilbert & Sullivan), large groups, small groups, solos – you name it. Thus far I can think of none that hasn’t benefited. Switching the device off (it takes a few seconds to wind down) you can readily hear the image “collapse” – again, not so much in size but in body.

5. I am reminded of an observation I made some years ago while listening to a performance of the Berlioz Requiem at Tanglewood. The power and majesty of the music brought tears to my eyes and yet, it never sounded “loud”. As some (like HP) have observed, that power is probably a result of the vast quantities of air being moved. Some have suggested that, perhaps, the presence of the 7.83Hz resonance assists the air in the listening room in conveying the music in a more pure fashion. (I do wish I had a better lexicon with which to describe what I hear). Others suggest that it’s the listener that’s being affected. Damned if I know.

6. Some have opined that these devices bring the recorded space into the room with you – and that they would find that objectionable. I must say that I would as well. What (I think) I am experiencing is more like the recorded space and the space I am in becoming one and the same. Make any sense?

Among the more difficult aspects of analyzing the “sound” of this thing is that it’s very easy just to get caught up in the music and forget about everything else. That, BTW is a good thing IMV.

PS: After experimenting with height using a tripod, I found that five feet was not obligatory – 4’ was actually better and, though not sure, I think eye level may be even a wee bit better.

Also - the unit is not calibrated to 7.83hz but, rather, is tunable from 2hz to 20hz. I was able to get the distributor to tune my unit to 7.83hz and mark the dial accordingly. This device was not designed for audio but for EMF relief and they suggest you set it up to "yourself" using arm strength tests. I did that and found the optimum to still be 7.83hz




"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

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RE: Impressions-EarthSafe Schumann Resonance Generator, posted on March 4, 2008 at 18:51:04
Sondek
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 Kava,

Even the houseplants look better! Seriously, thank you for sharing your thoughts on the EarthSafe device. At the moment I'm leaning toward the EarthSafe machine. Although I will probably wait to hear what Stephæn has to say about the EarthCalm machine before I make a fainal decision. Again, thanks for sharing.

 

Is it having an affect on you personally, or your audio system?, posted on March 4, 2008 at 19:58:59
jea48
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 Call me curious.....

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally, or your audio system?, posted on March 4, 2008 at 21:45:55
kavakidd
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 I wish I could give you a definitive answer but - the things I had hoped for personally have not (at least not yet) shown up. It's going to take a better man than I to determione whether its effect is on me, the room or the equipment.

Personally, I suspect the room

"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

You know, posted on March 4, 2008 at 21:47:09
kavakidd
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 I thought the same thing (about the houseplants) but I'm still not sure. I AM watching then though

"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally, or your audio system?, posted on March 5, 2008 at 00:53:49
May Belt
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 >>> "I have been the last person who would ever think that an electronic product that was not connected to my system in any way could make improvements in the sound – let alone substantial improvements. I now stand corrected.

The immediate first impression is that the whole system has been given a shot of testosterone. Sound is more powerful (without being louder) with greater extension at both extremes and a greater sense of "ease". Bass sounds better defined, deeper more tuneful and more powerful. Rhythmic drive also seems improved as witnessed by more persistent tapping of the ol' feet.

Some have suggested that, perhaps, the presence of the 7.83Hz resonance assists the air in the listening room in conveying the music in a more pure fashion. (I do wish I had a better lexicon with which to describe what I hear). Others suggest that it's the listener that's being affected. Damned if I know." <<<

Kavakidd, can I ask you to do the same thing as I am asking Norm to do ? i.e.

Now you have had the experience of trying different things and being able to 'hear' so much more information, can I ask you to pause now, and to sit and think ?

Where has this additional information come from ? Where has it been all this time ?

What has had an effect on what ? Where ? How ?

Regards,
May Belt.

 

Has anyone used Schumann device w/ headphones? nt, posted on March 5, 2008 at 02:30:25
geoffkait
 nt

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally, or your audio system?, posted on March 5, 2008 at 09:27:23
kavakidd
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 Hi May,

I've been asking myself those questions and more. I have to believe the information itself was there all along but I can't help but wonder if the better conveyance of that information is a result of an effect on the environment of the room, the effect on me, or a combination.

I would sure like to have a definitive answer even though, in practice, it makes little difference.

As I've mentioned elsewhere, my initial interest in this product was based on health concerns. The jury's still out on that issue.

"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally, or your audio system?, posted on March 5, 2008 at 10:39:28
Paul_A
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 I've been breaking in an earth calm device, or rather I've been getting broken in getting by it. When I first used it at the lowest of its three settings, I felt a tingling sensation that was centered around my chest. I'm up to level two now and I don't notice the tingling all that much any more. In about a week I'll probably have it going full throttle. The one time I tried it full strength it was pretty unpleasant--tingling everywhere--but it seems that I do get acclimated to the thing, so in a week maybe I won't be feeling odd even if it is running at full strength. If you believe the manufacturer, this is because I will have been cleansed of the electrochemical toxins in my body. Maybe yes and maybe no.

I haven't noticed any effect on my audio, but I thought that I should wait until I stop feeling just plain weird from this thing before I judge its impact on the stereo. Anyway, have you had any physical sensations connected with your gizmo?

 

In the very beginning, posted on March 5, 2008 at 10:45:53
kavakidd
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 the first time I turned it on, I had a strange sense of anxiety in the pit of my stomach. It abated after 45 minutes or so. Other than that, I'm still trying to evaluate what, if any, other physical impact it may be having. I am hoping (against hope?) that it may, over time, have a positive influence on my CFS symptoms. We'll see.

"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

I'd certainly be interested in any, posted on March 5, 2008 at 11:06:04
kavakidd
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 replies.

"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

Hey, you with all the questions -- you, and Socrates -- Just go away willya? nt, posted on March 5, 2008 at 11:34:26
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As I've always said, music is a damn distraction from audio. nt, posted on March 5, 2008 at 11:45:09
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RE: Impressions-EarthSafe Schumann Resonance Generator, posted on March 5, 2008 at 12:20:18
HiOnFi
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 This may seem odd, but have you checked your stool, as in bowel movements? That's where toxins eventually are eliminated. Are they firm(er)... has the color changed? It is likely to change for awhile then gain a natural color

 

RE: Impressions-EarthSafe Schumann Resonance Generator, posted on March 5, 2008 at 12:32:03
Stephæn
 I've lived with the level-three functions of the EarthCalm device for three
weeks now. Later this week, I will unplug and go cold turkey for at least
one week; I suspect the effects of these devices have some sort of "half-
life" and my guess is that it is more than four hours and less than two days,
but I want to be sure. After that, we'll plug 'er in, again.

æ

If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.

 

RE: Impressions-EarthSafe Schumann Resonance Generator, posted on March 5, 2008 at 12:57:58
Sondek
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 Stephæn, eargerly awaiting your report. Thank you for bringing your experiences to this board.

Mike

 

Reverse impression - in fact, posted on March 14, 2008 at 13:53:01
kavakidd
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 the effects of my unit seem to be cumulative. Day after day I hear new and better things. Either that - or my imagination's running wild. Awaiting your conclusions from the latest experiment.

"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

RE: Reverse impression - in fact, posted on March 14, 2008 at 14:19:28
Stephæn
 Interesting report ....

Have you tried turning it off for a day, or a few hours, yet?

æ

If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.

 

I haven't turned it off, posted on March 14, 2008 at 14:23:47
kavakidd
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 but I have set it to a lower frequency at night (around 4hz) to see what it might do for sleep. Perhaps my imagination but it seems to help a wee bit.

"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

Now that you are finally noticing something, posted on March 14, 2008 at 15:46:38
OMalley

You should make sure they get aligned correctly. Hard to believe that these sugar cube sized block really make a difference especially behind big fat ass horns.



Really really hard to believe.

I don`t care much about music.
What I like is sounds. ~ Dizzy Gillespie

 

Can also be achieved with Acoustic Revive QR8, posted on March 15, 2008 at 20:13:21
hotbird
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quartz resonators...
They weren't the first, before them, the Japanese already had all these stuff to stick on the walls and glass panels, eg Harmonix RFA7800, Reqst Resonance Chips, and latest on the market Acoustic Revive Quartz Resonators. Then there are also Shun Mook, and Marigo Tuning Dots. Personally I think the quartz are the most effective and powerful among them. ;-)

 

I still have Harmonix RFA7800s and Marigo Tuning Dots on my walls. One AR QR-8 did more., posted on March 17, 2008 at 06:37:17
Norm
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 Just putting the one QR-8 in the center of the wall behind my speakers had a dramatic effect. I also found putting one in the centers of the four windows behind my speakers also had a dramatic effect. I know all to well that the QR-8s can over dampen, so I have added no more to my walls, at least for now.

 

RE: Impressions-EarthSafe Schumann Resonance Generator, posted on May 25, 2008 at 09:56:36
boodles
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 I'm kind of puzzled by why the height of the generator is important, since if it's generating a 7.83Hz signal, this should permeate everywhere, through walls, etc., with no trouble, shouldn't it? Also, does the device have to be between the speakers, or can it be elsewhere in the listening room like on top of a bookcase?
Thanks for explaining these issues to a newbie.
Chris

 

RE: Has anyone used Schumann device w/ headphones? nt, posted on June 23, 2008 at 05:15:23
Nirmala
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 I just got an Earthsafe unit to try with my headphone system. So far the effect is a very slight filling in of the sound. It almost seems like I have turned up the volume a very small notch when I turn on the Earthsafe. And especially it is as if the quieter details in the music have been turned up a little relative to the rest of the sounds, so there is less effort on my part to hear into the music.

However the effect is very slight and I am not sure if I am going to keep my unit. The minimal amount of effect may be due to all of the other things I have already done to reduce the effect of EMF/RFI on me and my system including 25 Graham-Stetzer filters throughout the house, an Earthcalm unit, a quantum Electroclear unit, and reducing or shielding sources of EMF. I also have 2 Clever Little Clocks, some Brilliant Pebbles and have used some of Peter and May Belt's products so those may also have eliminated some adverse effects on the sound, or on me as the listener, before the Earthsafe unit arrived. In addition my system is completely battery powered now, so I am not hooked up to AC power while I am listening. So in a sense it is nearly a worst case scenario for testing, if the Earthsafe does work through an effect on EMF, not to mention that there is of course no effect from room acoustics when listening on headphones.

Just out of curiosity, I may take my semi-portable headphone system over to a friends house and plug in the Earthsafe over there to see if in a less favorable environment, there is more effect on the sound while using headphones.

 

RE: In the very beginning, posted on May 19, 2010 at 09:50:37
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 I have used the RR77 for a period of 2 year now with most excellent results, i also feel results only limited to the room it is sitting on, so I got another one for my bedroom which I must confess it feels slightly different and to confirm tat I switched units to see if they had different results and they did, so it is confirmed.

The effect of both is very well felt and real but it is if I cna compare it with something like using a very nice silver interconnect and a very nice copper interconnect if you know what I mean . . .

The effect is nothing short of amazing I couldn't believe my ears, in my office i have a very nice tube system, for the bedroom system I have a hybrid integrated amp, and some nice Kimber silver cables, that sounds with a lot more detail and slam, also more pristine and airy top end. the best part comes for the video display, to the point where i had to readjust contrast, color saturation (had to back both down a bit) and also sharpness must come down quite a bit also.
After all this I don't think the effect is in the physical room I do believe the effect is in the way electronics interact and noise floors and to cut hash and noise, also because of the way my body feels and possible benefits a ta physiological level that are felt when this unit is on in the room, I conclude that though very curious how this work nevertheless it works very well indeed.

I have extended the invitation to borrow one of my Schumann generators for a little while and see if he develops an opinion since he is pretty much a skeptic the way I used to be; before trying these.
i understand there are snake oil salesman out there, people who like for you to believe they can change the acoustics forever with a secret tweak they can effect though a phone call, LOL!! some people are really ridiculous but sad for the people that buy into that nonsense stuff .. . I'm certainly not one of them. just keep your money invest in a live concert of your favorite music . .

I hope this helps a little, Enjoy your music

G.

 

RE: Impressions-EarthSafe Schumann Resonance Generator, posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:53:35
david.osborne77@yahoo.com
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 Good God!

 

Touche nt, posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:55:11
david.osborne77@yahoo.com
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 Ok. Touche again.

 

RE: You know, posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:09:55
isochronism
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 Have you asked the houseplants how they now feel? Upon their answer, I would then suggest the effect is on you.

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally?, posted on October 30, 2012 at 18:54:21
adaug
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 i have been interested in trying one of these devices to combat the effects of seasonal affective disorder or s.a.d., which leaves me fatigued many days in novembers and decembers. does anyone have any experience or information on schumann resonance generators having positive impacts on mood and energy levels?

thanks -andre


-andre d

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally?, posted on November 1, 2012 at 14:59:34
geoffkait
 The Schumann frequency generator is routinely sold by health related companies to improve overall health and well being. There is also an unconfirmed report on many of those companies websites that NASA employed Schumann frequency generators on the Space Shuttle to combat astronaut fatigue. Note I said unconfirmed. You might find testimonials by users on some of the health related websites that sell the Schumann frequency generator. On the other hand, there have been reports by audiophiles that the Schumann frequency generator made them dizzy, etc.

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally?, posted on November 1, 2012 at 15:46:58
adaug
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 thanks much. do you know of any comprehensive or esp illuminating discussions on the audio or health effects of the SR?

regards -andre


-andre d

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally?, posted on November 1, 2012 at 17:17:26
geoffkait
 Here are a few links to reviews and discussions of the Acoustic Revive RR-77 Schumann Frequency Generator.


http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue39/acoustic_revivie.htm

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticrevive/rr77.html

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/frr.pl?raccs&1209469699&read&3&4&

 

RE: Is it having an affect on you personally?, posted on November 1, 2012 at 18:27:03
adaug
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 thanks so much for the interesting links.

i am going to try one out.

regards -andre


-andre d

 

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