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AN E - Internal wiring

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Posted on January 3, 2010 at 03:02:09
Ougo
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Hello Guys and happy new year everyone.

I have a short question: Does anyone tried to bi-wire internal cables in an AN E speakers? By example:
- double each internal wires with the same one (SPe+SPe or SPx+SPx)
- double each internal wires with a different one (SPe+SPx)
- use a double wire of SPe on the (+) and a double SPx on the (-)
- use a double wire of SPe on the top and a double SPx on the woofer
- ...

Thanks for you feed back and advice.

All the best

Ugo
Garrard 301 / AN-1S AN Vx / AN IO Gold / AN S8 / Bow ZZ8 / AN M8 / AN P4 Balanced / AN E SPx SE / Vz, LP, Sogon50, Sogon80 bi-wiring.

 

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RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 3, 2010 at 05:39:40
horny
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hello Ougo
I have no experience with this,
but wit interlinks i use an AN vx 1 meter interlink its a 20 strands silver.
And a good friend use 4 of these together for also 1 meter
so its 80 strands
no doubt this is the better intelink, so more silver is better sounding
(more weight to the music and a cleaner sound)

If i should do it in the speakers i would use the same wire and strand numbers on the plus and minus the music signal is AC
and go´s 1 period thru the plus and the other thru minus
there is no constant signal wire.

(is it thru or trough? )

It is not easy to get the woofers out of the cabinet !!
i now this because i have to remove the woofers after a few day´s i recieve them
Audio note set one woofer out of phase
and they claim matching :^(

You must do it realy carfully the bleutac is realy strong

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 3, 2010 at 22:50:45
Ougo
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Hello Horny,

Thank you for your feedback. I have an AN E SPe HE pair of speakers and the opportunity to replace it with SPx or double SPe with SPx.
A friend made some tests and considers that the minus is more sensible (I don't know why) ; he obtained the best results with 3 cables (cooper litz) on the - and 2 on the +.

I know that it's not easy to open the AN E, it's why I prefer to ask the questions before ;-).
Is there any tip & tricks to know to open and close the AN E?


Thanks
Ugo
Garrard 301 / AN-1S AN Vx / AN IO Gold / AN S8 / Bow ZZ8 / AN M8 / AN P4 Balanced / AN E SPx SE / Vz, LP, Sogon50, Sogon80 bi-wiring.

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 4, 2010 at 08:34:14
horny
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hello Ugo
I used this to pull the unit out:
Remove the screws of the unit screw the corkscrew in 1 hole of the unit
lift the wings and place a woodblock between the corkscrew ring and the cabinet
push gently and slow the wings down you will feel that it coming loose then do this on the next hole the unit is coming slowly out then.
But do it all carfully and give the bleutac time to loose

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 5, 2010 at 05:04:25
Bambadoo
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Yes use a cork screw. Warm up before doing it. The resin will loosen a bit easier then.

A very old link with some pictures is attached here. As you can see I warmed up the speakers in front of an oven :)

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 5, 2010 at 17:25:39
scarebus
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Ugo,
I use a heat gun. Cover the cone and foam with a lid(frying pan) and blow heat around the speaker flange in circle motion till the surrounding area gets nice and warm. That will loosen the blue-tac. Then use a cork screw opener and lift it up slowly.

Chris

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 6, 2010 at 01:00:47
Ougo
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Hello All,

Thanks for your inputs. I saw too somewhere this tip to open the speaker and will do that.
Does anyone do some tests concerning the internal wiring? If using several AN Vx increase the quality, using several internal wiring could give the same improvement.
Does someone test different cables on the trebble (SPe) and bass (SPx)?

I don't want to open the speakers several times so I prefer to collect more information before.


Thanks for all

Ugo
Garrard 301 / AN-1S AN Vx / AN IO Gold / AN S8 / Bow ZZ8 / AN M8 / AN P4 Balanced / AN E SPx SE / Vz, LP, Sogon50, Sogon80 bi-wiring.

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 6, 2010 at 12:27:54
horny
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hello Ugo
I think that you never cant go wrong with more silver

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 7, 2010 at 01:28:57
Ougo
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You are right.

I will do the tests.


Enjoy

Ugo
Garrard 301 / AN-1S AN Vx / AN IO Gold / AN S8 / Bow ZZ8 / AN M8 / AN P4 Balanced / AN E SPx SE / Vz, LP, Sogon50, Sogon80 bi-wiring.

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 15, 2010 at 05:31:26
Ougo
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hello,

Shame on me, i didn't test and just connect SPe and SPx together.
Results are closed from what you obtain when you replace SPe by SPx (external cable).
It's not a real progress for science.

Ugo
Garrard 301 / AN-1S AN Vx / AN IO Gold / AN S8 / Bow ZZ8 / AN M8 / AN P4 Balanced / AN E SPx SE / Vz, LP, Sogon50, Sogon80 bi-wiring.

 

RE: AN E - Internal wiring, posted on January 25, 2010 at 02:17:50
Ougo
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Location: Paris
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Hi,

Few days after, I disconnected the SPe and just keep a single wiring of SPx. In fact, the AN E was too slow and sound a little bit to dark.
It seems that yes we can double the internal wiring,but with the same model.

Just for information.

Ugo
Garrard 301 / AN-1S AN Vx / AN IO Gold / AN S8 / Bow ZZ8 / AN M8 / AN P4 Balanced / AN E SPx SE / Vz, LP, Sogon50, Sogon80 bi-wiring.

 

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