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In Reply to: PLUS how in hell can you underwrite anything AFTER the damage is done... (NT) posted by ParloFax on May 17, 2007 at 05:02:56:
were the buyer to opt out of (paying for) insurance I guess we could say he (buyer) is underwriting the risk (of shipping damage) himself.This doesn't appear to be the case here, in fact if the facts are straight then what we have here is simple petty theft!
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thus taking on the risk of the item arriving in good condition. I would not consider a transaction complete until I had received the item in the condition it was described as.Regards,
is steer clear of eBay, AudiogoN, etc., because I'm afraid you'd be immensely dissatisfied with the common practices for the vast majority of transactions, e.g. buyer pays *then* seller ships, seller assumes no responsible for lost in transit, etc.It's a *Buyer Beware* market, and the prudent buyer will insist upon shipping insurance. Moreover bear in mind that there are no guarantees, for example if the shipping agent determines damage due to incompetence packaging a insurance claim may be denied and the buyer will have little recourse but attempt compensation from the (likely derelict) seller.
Every purchase I make over say $20 or so is guaranteed to arrive and to arrive in the condition described. The seller must at a minimum guarantee adequete packaging to support an insurance claim if the item is damaged, must allow me to purchase insurance for loss, and guarantee me that the item will work as described.If not I will not bid. I buy plenty of stuff on eBay and on Audiogon.
I've had some issues but since everyone's responsibility was clearly defined and understood at the outset there was never any real problems. This is not to say I've been able to reach a clear understanding at the outset on every item I wanted to buy - in general every seller who understood has agreed. However some sellers are incapable of understanding or pretend to be and I just avoid them. And talking to others around here I believe some sellers just would not agree to my conditions - though I've not run across one of them yet.
Gonna trade Negatives for the $$$ to insure a $20.00 purchase?
I've completed over 150 transactions on ebay, and only one time did I have an issue (and it wasn't a big deal in the end). I must be living right.
I did just receive a batch of LPs from Mosaic that I thought were poorly packaged (even were it a private sale the packing would rate as a poor job) but they survived so I guess I'm just damn lucky as well!
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Agree 100% and I am dissatisfied with the "typcial" structure of transactions. I also agree that "prudent buyers" should insist on insurance. I just don't think they should represent themselves as the purchaser of the insurance even if this adds cost to the item. Seller purchased insurance, then if push comes to shove a good faith contractual obligation can be demonstrated on the seller to deliver the item in good condition. Also seller responsible for filling claim as his insuring his item delivered whole.Of course this doesn't even begin to address a host of scams of selling broken items and then scamming the insurance. Best, bet use the feedback options, as limiting as they are, to try and make the best informed decision on which buyers to use.
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