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In Reply to: did i make a recommendation? posted by analog guy on May 16, 2007 at 15:40:05:
This battle is rather amusing for me.It would be interesting to go to the Mill and listen to one-of-a -kind gear, some made by people I'm curious about. It would certainly be a gas to flip through your record collection, or to hear a bit of it on my equipment, in my home.
None of those things are likely to happen. But I thought I might weigh with this: I'm perfectly content to learn details of the collection you've put together, without caring about the equipment you use to play said records.
I played records for quite a few years on three radio stations and several nightclubs, and on a variety of gear. If I played a good set, it always sounded good. In the studio, or the club, or on a cassette On my home stereo gear, music has sounded better as I have improved my equipment--and I have some decent gear. But I'm much prouder of my record collection, and I haven't posted my system, because I don't see the point. If I start asking other VA members which cart I ought to buy, then I suppose they might think they had a right to expect such information--but that isn't happening.
My record collection and my experience are my credentials, not my gear, or money, or the car I drive. If you post your system, I'll probably read it, eventually. If you never list it, I could care less.
Peace.
Follow Ups:
thank you, milo.personally, i generally care little for what other people are using, and when i do post in a thread where people ask for advice i chime in if i have (in my opinion) something meaningful to share. i try to state why i have a basis for comparison.
that said, i presume most folks can either decide to pay attention to what i say or ignore it -- but it's the advice-seeker's discretion.
jweiss has posted the same thing on 3 occasions now. none of the original advice-seekers have asked for system details -- so either it wasn't important to them or they tuned out the 'noise'. jweiss has also never taken me up on writing me a personal email and my offer to possibly share in a private conversation what i prefer not to list on a public forum. he likes to use the term 'disingenuous' (though he doesn't always get the spelling right) where it does not apply.
it's entertaining to me -- particularly his strong concern.
i try to help people with questions, but i don't see why there's such concern over what gives me such great satisfaction. i can share information with people from mistakes i've made, lessons i've learned, and things i've done right.
jweiss & tubesforever are the only people who have asked for that information out -- and neither one bothered to follow up with me personally. i've never been inclined to look at either one of their systems; doesn't interest me.
the music is more important. i enjoy the discussion about records much more. post up some more covers, milo! i've got a good one for tomorrow...almost want to post it tonight.
I'll say this much about the whole fray...1) My system isn't listed, either. Hifitommy is always after me to do it, but I don't because it is always in a state of flux...or confusion. Anyway, It runs from Magneplanars to KEFs with PS Audio to Conrad Johnson electronics. I also have a dozen, or so, tonearms, and my turntables are either modified, or custom-built. I own a few drawers full of cartridges. I have an ASR phono stage on the way, but who knows how long it will stay around? So why bother trying to list it all? analog guy, I believe you should mention it when it applies to the topic at hand...and, I'm not trying to be overly critical about it.
2) Johnathan listens to a wide variety of music. This I know. Why should he participate in every "spinning" thread, if he doesn't want to? Like most of us, he listens to a bit of everything.
All that said, if someone comes along with specific recommendations about equipment, he should be prepared to answer specific questions about his own equipment...and musical tastes. Otherwise, how can his opinion be weighed? We know only what our experience tells us, and no one on this board has a divining rod that will point him in the direction of vinyl nirvana. This is not to criticize, but to show why some are frustrated by any guy who is somehow mysterious in his presentation of things.
mosin, i take your point.however, if someone doesn't list their system, the person who asked the question can decide whether or not to place any weight on the advice given. in other words, some (like you, perhaps), will place no weight on any words w/o the advice-giver listing the system. others may decide on a post-by-post basis if there is enough information to establish credibility.
on the thread in question, jweiss jumps at me for making a post that did not discuss or recommend any specific gear -- only a concept to consider. it wasn't jonathan's question. why does he have a hard-on for my system? i dunno.
all that aside, no one's taken me up on my offer to discuss this privately.
if you must know, my family was robbed a number of years ago. with the way the internet has gone, it's not terribly hard to find information about everyone. i don't have a particular interest in listing the inventory of my house to someone who can (easily enough) find a map to it -- even if i do live in a place where trespassers are not taken to in a kind manner.
if it's relevant to a private discussion, then i'm happy to talk and share information.
maybe this makes me paranoid...i dunno. but I do know that not only do i not really care about what other people have, i don't wish to display what i do or do not have. i don't like to get into discussions of who-has-the-better-amplifier; even if i was "the winner" (as if there ever could be such a thing), that kind of talk embarrass me and makes me feel uncomfortable.
hope that clears things up a bit.
(oh...regarding point #2... not sure who suggested jonathan participate in anything. it definitely wasn't me. no clue where your comment comes from or to whom it is directed.)
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