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In Reply to: can someone explain the concept of PRaT and... posted by analog guy on May 9, 2007 at 16:14:11:
....because the music involves you in a way that captures your full attention.Another signal that you've got some prat going is when you, --without thinking about it--, start moving your body to the rhythm of the music. It's a subconscious thing. It just moves you.
Conversely, a sign that you DON'T have any real prat going is if you have to analyze the situation to figure out if you do.
-Steve
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hi, steve:
just curious if you read my original post. i understand what "pace, rhythm and timing" are (and to me they are inextricable from *music*, so the notion of listening to or owning a system or component that stole "PRaT" from the music is incomprehensible to me.the post wasn't about "how to get" PRaT in a system but, rather, why people attribute "PRaT" to a component. sorry if that wasn't clear in my original message.
Yes, through your comments it was apparent to me that you have a handle on what the term means but rather you're looking to draw attention to how various people use the term.I think Pete addressed your concerns fairly well when he noted that a component, or group of them, can't add pace rhythm and timing. Rather, the system hardware can subtract or corrupt the musical intent.
I would add that a good system should manage to get out of the way of the music.Perhaps I didn't make the intent of my comments clear so I'll take this opportunity to elaborate. My comments weren't about "how to get" prat but rather how to identify if you've got it. And that if you have to think very much about it, then it is probably lacking somehow.
btw my comments weren't addressed so much with you, the original poster, in mind but to anyone interested.
how's that?
-Steve
user510's system
So true Steve....I ususally have 2-3 tables up and running at any one time. The Prat value is different on all three and usually all three sound great.
I love this hobby because as you find what you need, then when you tune the sound right there is magic in the music.
Unfortunately there are a great deal of things going on in a system. Just one perfect product or item does not a system make. Sorry Shakespeare.....I didn't mean to slay your material.
Cheers!
...your comments and the clarification. thank you for taking the time, steve!
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