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Does anyone have the latest Classic Records 200 gram pressing of "Not Too Late?" I'm curious about the first song, "Wish I Could." I've got some strange sounds that do not sound like pressing issues but like problems during recording, especially right at the beginning of the song. Anyone else hear problems with this first cut?The album's not bad. There are at least three songs I really enjoy. Sounds a bit dark though...
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I can take or leave Norah Jones on her own, but last year's side project with The Little Willies is great. She lends her smokey bluesy sound to covers by Willie Nelson ("little willies", get it?) and other c&w classics, as well as a few originals. Guitar great Jim Campilongo adds the chops missing from her solo albums. The Classic Records release includes a bonus 7" single.
What does it matter what "everyone" thinks?I just returned my copy to be exchanged. The first track had occasional "buzz" sounds in the left channel only. This seems to be consistent with other's descriptions of incomplete groove filling during the pressing process.
I also have the red version which is a sonic/pressing QC disaster.
Hopefully, my exchange copy will be free of these issues!
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Can be boring in the way shetakes a good song and slows it down so much as to be unrecognizable. The saving grace is the great back up band she uses. They can make anyone sound nerarly good.
Let's see, Norah is much like "it's way too crowded, no one goes there anymore.." Actually, it seems the crowd is gathered around the critics who think it's way cool to pick on Norah. We have one here in Chicago who criticized her because she didn't sound like Billy Holliday. It sort of reminds me of the critics who panned Paul Simon's "Graceland" because he wasn't Stevie Wonder. These criticisms provide no clue to the music, but you sure can't argue with them.
I returned it this morning, and they had no more on hand, so I got Tori Amos' new one instead.Your subject reminds me how I now feel the need to hide my James Blunt lp, as he has been declared hausfrau garbage by majority consensus here and at the Hoffman cite. I still like it, though.
Well, you received four responses that have nothing to do with the question you asked. Typical. I've got the Classic and the Blue Note
pressings. I'll play both and see if I hear a problem. What are you hearing?
A post that states, in it's subject line --- that something is universally liked, or disliked.....Kinda begs for said opinion to be discussed.
Doncha think ?
Correction, I only have the Classic of this. I have different copies of her second album. Again, what are you hearing?
You can't miss this. It's a clean static-type noise (not white noise) similar to what you hear in your car radio if you drive under a high-tension power line. Like a BZZZzzzz. It's what you'd expect to hear in a cartoon with some character sticking its finger in a wall socket. It's not pronounced but it's at the same level as the music and quite obvious. It's only the first cut and always at the same spots in the song. It doesn't sound like a pressing issue but I could be wrong. I don't hear it on the CD - I have both.I dropped Elusive Disc a note. I'll see how they respond. The vinyl's dished as well with the entire outer edge of Side 2 up about 3/16" off of the platter of my Scout, even when properly clamped.
First, I don't hate Norah Jones. I think she is a refreshing vocalist/songwriter in an ocean of vapid whiners and egomaniacal over the top screamers. I only fault "not too late" for not having a steamy equivalent to in the morning or above ground from feels like home.Regarding the sound you describe it sounds like it may be non-fill, which sort of sounds like running your thumbnail across the small the teeth of a barber's comb, Zzzzzzzzt. If that's the case, there's nothing you can do about. It's the result of the vinyl not spreading evenly into the groove during pressing. Return it for a replacement. I listened to my copy last nite, and mine sounds fine. (The signature Classic flaw on mine is a low level and brief scratch in the middle of trk 3, s.1, and this is a replacement for the first one I returned. The replacement is also dish warped, but overall, it's about as good as you'll probably get, so I'll keep it. The mastering is fine; too bad pressing QC is so wanting.)
...have the classic. tell us what you hear so we can respond/help.i also think commenting on the performer is fine, but the whole 'as soon as other people like an artist i stop liking him/her'-argument is juvenile.
i think one could generally say they are not inspired by the mainstream stars of today.... but should an non-mainstream performer gain a grassroots following that grows into popularity, should we abandon our enjoyment of that musician's body of work?
What's funny is that I would probably like Norah Jones, very much, if I were the only person I knew who liked her.Once an artist becomes the Heroine Of The Soccer Moms and the undisputed Queen Of Laid Back Muzak Programming ....
.... the VH-1 Smoothrock Poster Girl
... well ...
That's when she's not cool anymore.
And if you listen, she's shoplifting a little too much, a little too often ---from other not-quite-so-well-remunerated of her brothers & sisters.... Bonnie Raitt gets lifted most often, but I hear way too many vocal inflections and style-cues of other artists to think that....... well, to think that there's much more there than a sifting and ripping combine of savvy business-musicians behind her. And in front of her. And where, exactly, is she ?
Oh yeah, put her in the category of :: Famous Guy's Daughter.
Those are always special, original talents. Hmm let's think, you got those Lennon kids, you got Marley's Ziggy, you got Frank Sinatra Jr, you got Liza, you got the President .........
You get the picture.
...that she recorded a track for Mike Patton's "Peeping Tom" band, named "Sucker", where she blurts out the F-word loudly and proudly (oh noes!! teh sky is falling!!)/sarcasm
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jb
Agree, for the most part.Except for Natalie Cole, who for once and forever jumped the shark .
--- When she did her "duet-with-dead-dad" Song and Video.
Just too fcking creepy and too close to checking the pockets of the corpse for loose change.
But then I'm a tough audience, I guess.
Just too fcking creepy and too close to checking the pockets of the corpse for loose change.Not unlike strip-mining John Lennon's voice-mail or whatever to throw together the insipid and even slightly sinister-in-a-necromantic-kinda-way "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love."
I agree mostly with your "rule". There are tons to add to your list, Wilson Phillips and the Nelsons?
It seems that with access to computers and MP3, artists can compile all these styles of other artists on a home computer. They can peruse over all these cuts and songs trying to generate a style.
Then try a little bit of Dinah a little bit of Theresa Brewer and put it together to get something that sounds unique .... like trying to get that magical combination that the people like and generate a hit.
Nothing at all like the original artists' style.
...oh, since sophomore year of college, perhaps, that I based my listening choices on who else, and how many others, were listening, disqualifying anyone even partly on the basis of their mass success.Sure, she cops stylistic cues from other artists, but just about every pop star does/did. The Beatles stole their harmonies from the Everlies; the Beach Boys, from the Four Freshmen; Dylan copped his persona and vocal style from a host of folk and blues musicians, starting with Woody Guthrie but not ending there; Joe Lovano echoes John Coltrane (as Joe Henderson once did); and let's not get started on how many Chicago denizens the Stones ripped off on the way to becoming The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World. I'm not saying that this makes her the artistic equal of any of them; merely that the history of rock and pop is the history of artistic borrowing. FWIW, the artist I think Jones most clearly resembles is Cassandra Wilson, who herself is a melange of influences (but who rarely gets lambasted for it the way Jones does).
Finally, you can't pick your relatives, and you deserve to be judged on your own merits (especially when your music is nothing like theirs and you have gone out of your way to say that Daddy abandoned you at birth, and you don't owe him nothin'. Sean Lennon may not be John, but then, any one of the Marsalis kids has outstripped daddy Ellis, who's a stellar jazzman in his own right.
Norah Jones does what she does, provides pleasure to lots of folks, and puts on no airs about herself or her music. It seems that she's a convenient shorthand for some folks' dislike of who listens to her (the latte crowd), and draws an inordinate amount of disdain for what is, at its base, well-played positive folk-pop.
VFR - can you describe the sound? I have the 150 gram Classic edition and the CD, and can check to see if it's present on those.
Thanks for the "musical-influences, borrowing or stealing ?" time-line.Knew that. Yep. Thanks.
But you gotta ask yourself, don't you-----
This Question :
Would anybody in their right mind compare Norah to Beatles, Dylan, Coltrane ...? ... who also lifted many musical cues in their day ?
Answer : No, actually, nobody would.
My point-- and my opinion, no need to adapt it as yours----
Is that if you can't recognize all the calculation in the "hype-innocent, no-posturing, rather-stand-backish, completely-'no-airs'-assuming posture" of the Norah phenom.......Then you just don't get the High-Volume, Mega-Cash, Only-Soccermoms-Still-Buy-Cds-Instead-Of-Ripping-Internet-Copies-To-Disc, World-Platinum kind of Sacred Cow position --- that this woman represents in the Pop Music Industry.
Gosh, thanks for clearing that up for me. Here I was all these years, thinking that I was a reasonably intelligent individual capable of making up my own mind based on my own ears and taste, when in reality I was a mindless zombie sheep not in my right mind and incapable of "recognizing" or "getting" the over-hyphenated stereotypes that come so easily to you. I will henceforth shun any musical effort that sells in excess of, say, 10,000 copies, or that appeals to suburban moms.BTW, "I'm not saying that this makes her the artistic equal of any of them..."
Naaaaaah.Don't be too hard on yourself. Or sheep, for that matter.
Oh, and Ashley Simpson has music on her record that has certain --let's stay neutral here--- musical threads in common with Bach , Stockhausen and, between tracks, John Cage .
BUT :
"I'm not saying that this makes her the artistic equal of any of them..."
So, if someone disagrees with you, they have, in the confines of your logic, demonstrated themselves as either out of their minds, or incapable of understanding the issue at your level. Well I guess you win!Or, maybe, as grandma used to say people are who they are because they can't be anyone else. Norah may sound like Norah not out of some insidious calculated plot, but rather because that's what Norah sounds like.
"Norah may sound like Norah not out of some insidious calculated plot,
but rather because that's what Norah sounds like. "You betcha.
Britney , too !!
I have one of their albums that I ended up with by accident. I think people even collect this one. To me, it's bubble gum just like Britney.
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She has a nice concert DVD out as well. It was done right after the first LP, "Come Away With Me" was released and includes the entire LP. Very good sonics on the DVD with the small, club-like venue. Can't answer your question, however. Don't have that LP.
Henry
I have dosed off on many an occassion listening to that album, something about it is so relaxing next thing you know your off in dreamland.
Easy Mr. Imus!
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Good one
Life has lots of trials and lots of music to help us through them.
a job at a preschool. Every day they would play her cd at nap time. But they put "Come Away" on repeat and it played for at least 45 minutes. I've not heard the whole album, but I could not stand to listen to that song one more time. Apparently its good for sleeping though.
Life has lots of trials and lots of music to help us through them.
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