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In Reply to: Well, like old P.T. once said, "there's a sucker . . . " /nt\ posted by HenryH on April 26, 2007 at 16:43:35:
i had to send the buyer a "warning" email via ebay -- simply to be careful and what would lead *me* to believe this was a reissue, as well as why I think the seller will claim it was "as described" and refuse to issue a refund.looks like the buyer is from japan; there could be a language barrier.
at some level, people are "on their own" (buyer beware), but there's no excuse for deliberately misleading someone.
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Good act of citizenship... Meanwhile, I'll let my mono "47 West 63rd NYC" (with no R on it)copy of Lou Donaldson's Blues Walk go for $3000, just to be generous. Seems like a fair price, as I paid all of $12 for it two months back. Of course it does have RE-1 scratched in the run-out on side 1, which I believe means "really the first edition".(grin)
You know, with these prices, people are going to be forging copies (if they are not already). My forged copy of the Beatles on Veejay is worth a few bucks as a forgery, apparently. Sounds awful, but an interesting curiosity.
...that posting about what a crime/travesty it is without attempting to send a note to the buyer is, well, unfortunate.in about 10 years, it will be MUCH harder for people to tell the classic reissues from the originals, even if sellers are earnest.
i do favor some markings on a reissue to (easily) signify the origin. it really doesn't detract from the look of the album at all, and it will thwart unscrupulous sellers from profiting off of the naivete of others.
Bernie Grundman scratches BG into the dead wax, there is no ear and there is a "Courtesy of Blue Note Records" notice on the back of the sleeve.
...but they are getting less obvious, so more novices will get duped into paying big $$ for something that is not as advertised.a simple "classic records" in very small font on the cover & label really doesn't diminish the quality of the production (witness some japanese/king issues) and makes it OBVIOUS to all what they are dealing with.
searching in the deadwax is easy for someone like us/someone on here to do, but it is not obvious to all.
it is hard to capture deadwax info in a digital photograph, too.
I tried to send a message to the buyer through eBay but was denied by their security system because I "had no open transactions with this member".
i was able to click on the buyer's feedback, then click 'contact member' on the left.
The seller does seem to be open and fair:
Seller has instructed me to add that he will give the buyer 7 days (from receipt of delivery) to inspect this record and/or have it inspected. He isn't a professional collector and wants the buyer to know that this record can be returned (Buyer to pay shipping & handling fees) if the record is found to be other than described. Please note that the seller is unavailable due to an illness and I don't know much about this Ebay stuff in general, so I'm not going to be much help either. Hopefully this return policy will ease some minds.
...he is clear to say "if the record is found to be other than described."i think one will NOT find the record to be "other than described", but one will find that the record is not original.
also, to say he has "little experience with ebay" (but at least 45 transactions) is a red flag. he very clearly wants a payment method with limited/no refundability (cashier's check).
believing that people won't take $4.5k and run.Checking the bid history of the seller, I only see sub $100 items sold. This is the first big ticket item. Not very reassuring.
Die gefährlichste Weltanschauung ist die Weltanschauung derjenigen, die die Welt nicht angeschaut haben.
Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859)
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