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In Reply to: headshell and added to the counterweight posted by OMalley on April 24, 2007 at 18:08:03:
...I have listened to a DL-103 extensively on an Empire 980 arm (effective mass measured in ounces). The Denon works great on that arm, tracking at it's recommended 2.5 grams. An SPU sounded really good on that arm also.The Denon's compliance is not measured in a standard fashion, my HiFi news test record is not the end all in measurement either. John Ellison has the Frequencies of the HiFi News record mapped out in his image gallery I believe.
Experience with the Denon seems to tell me that it doesn't mind a heavy arm as much as a light one. It (the DL-103) did work and sound good on my SME 309 and it is a 9.5 gram effective mass arm, no added weight needed. The Denon did not sound as good on my Stock RB300 (compared to the SME), The AT OC9ML/II sounded better on the Rega in comparison to the Denon. Why (shrugs shoulders)? I dunno.
I wish I was still tight with the guy that had the Empire 980 (mounted on an elaborate granite plinth, driving a Sota vacuum platter & bearing with a string driven by a Hurst motor) so that I could listen, quiz and measure...and listen some more.
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Al G
Born To Tinker!
Follow Ups:
so maybethere is something re the rb arms that needs to massed up for the DL-103's? Whatever ... I will look around next year at tax time for a true high mass arm for my Thorens. Which means that I will probably go for a 304 in the short run and save the re-tip for the 103 on the Thorens w/ high mass arm.
That in my brief experience with a DL-013 on a RB300, it sounded better with a 3 gram weight mounted on top of the head.FWIW my Grado Signature 8MZ sounded better that way on the RB300 also...
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Al G
Born To Tinker!
right, I added the 3 gram weight but had to add a lot of mass at the back on the counterweight so I could balance.
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