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In Reply to: Least expensive place to purchase "Last record preservative"? posted by rich121 on April 24, 2007 at 13:23:11:
they may or may not be any cheaper than their dealers, but they are providing an invaluable service to Vinylphiles worldwide.IMHO they deserve the profit from direct sales instead of the less profitable wholesale sales through their retail network.
Cheers
Me, I'm just a lawnmower, you can tell me by the way I walk....
-Ray
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Ray,
Thanks for the response...
How many records can I expect to treat with say, the 2 oz bottle, just so I can get an idea of the amount/cost it will be?Thanks,
I always applied to at least 4 albums in one session. I used the recommended amount on the first record side, the rest of the sides I was able to dispense a little less while the applicator was still moist. I dispense a little less still on only 2/3 of the applicator length for sides with less tracks. With my last 2oz bottle, I'd treated over 40 albums, both sides.
Theo
With the smaller 2 oz bottle I seem to recall getting arund 30LP's or so out of it. There's a certain amount of spillage and evaporation that occurs when you use it because the stuff evaporates really quick and the eyedropper sometimes drip out.
As a rule of thumb in the old days, I figured it cost roughly $1 a record.That said, I have been using an 8oz. bottle for about 10 years and it's not even halfway gone. The dropper that comes with the big bottle is better and is easier to use. I am probably getting more like 50 cents per record due to the lower evaporation and spillage rate as well as the lower cost per ounce.
Also, if you have a record cleaning machine or use heavy duty cleaners, the LAST treament requires re-application. If you use Record Research Labs Super Vinyl Wash, it will not require re-application.
the best thing to do is to apply LAST to pristine vinyl that does not require any kind of deep cleaning.
Cheers,
Cheers,
Me, I'm just a lawnmower, you can tell me by the way I walk....
-Ray
According to the chemist who created Last the only thing that will remove it is an industrial solvent unavailable to consumers. He told me that Last isn't a coating but rather it bonds with the vinyl.
That's funny. Maybe it changed at some point. I've been using the stuff well before there were websites. Back when it came out, I recall there being some advisory about cleaning records with the alcohol-based VPI fluid and their record cleaning machine.Go figure...
My LAST'd records never get washed after they are LAST'd, so I hav never had occasion to re-apply LAST Preservative.
Thanks for the clarification.
Cheers,
Me, I'm just a lawnmower, you can tell me by the way I walk....
-Ray
If there has been any warning on Last and record cleaners it must be relatively recent. I had that phone conversation with the guy who devised Last perhaps 20 years ago, not long after Last came out. He passed away a few years ago I think.
Maybe the warning was not from LAST themselves, but from a review or even the sales rep.
It was so long ago, I can't remember the source of the info anymore.
Me, I'm just a lawnmower, you can tell me by the way I walk....
-Ray
HI,
I'm not sure how many records you can treat with 2 oz. because I purchase the large bottles. That is the only way to go if you have a large record collection. It will save a lot of money.I use a home made cleaning solution with my VPI 17 RCM. I do not wash records often but always before I apply Last. As I understand the situation after talking to the inventor, Last combines chemically with the vinyl. It does not simply lie on the surface to be washed off. I have not found that Last is removed by my cleaning solution.
Also, I always use Last Stylus Treatment. The combination of the two will extend the life of both your records and the stylus. This is important considering that many records are essentially irreplacable and the cost of top line cartridges.
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