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In Reply to: Consulting history can be enlightening... get ready for some ROTFLYAO irony!!! posted by bjh on April 24, 2007 at 05:02:41:
I have a SOTA turntable and I think CDs sound better. I used to have a Thorens and I also thought CDs sounded better then, too. Another problem is that I feel my present SOTA is the best sounding turntable I've ever heard in my life and I can't afford another mega-buck turntable. What should I do?
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I've heard a number of Sota TTs - from the Sapphire through the TOL vacuum models. I can say with great confidence that I would prefer the sound of any decent CDP to the sound of those expensive TTs. Not only that I can also say with great confidence that the Rega P3 offers a much more enjoyable and better sounding listening experience than any Sota I have heard.Having owned a Sota for more than 3 years after purchasing it used and setup by an authorized dealer and having heard in several different systems various versions of Sota TT models I do understand why people think these are great sounding turntables. However I disagree they are very amusical like most of the ClearAudio, Basis and the older VPI decks I am familiar with.
You want to make the Sota table your vinyl reference go for it. It's no wonder you prefer digital - I did too. Even a $100 CDP sounded better to me.
See John we are on the same page.
I would be happy to send you some CD-Rs made from my SOTA, but I fear your Rega 2000 might not cut the mustard! ;-)
I've got an Exposure XXIII, a NAD 521 BEE and will be in possession of a Raysonic cd128 later this week. Even (and maybe especially) the NAD should be mostly capbable of representing the sound of your TT as you capture it on a CD.Best sound I ever got from my iPod were recorded using a Sony WTC50 CDR from my Roksan rig.
I'd be willing to listen to your CDs with an open mind. I've spent lots of time with a variety of Sota players so I doubt you'll change my mind. Drop me an email if you are serious and I'll send you my address and give them a listen.
If music sounds good on both, just enjoy both?I enjoyed many years of music with the P5 and although I will say that my Rega 2000 sounded a bit nicer, I still enjoyed music very much on both. I could turn my P5 back on with the old cartridge and continue to enjoy music. (Although I was worried about my cartridge damaging my vinyl)
Very nice table by the way. It looks great!
Thanks, T&T,I was trying to be a bit sarcastic, but I appreciate your honest and serious response. Yes, I enjoy both formats very much. I have a lot of vinyl like you, and I enjoy listening to it because I like a lot of the old stuff. However, the new stuff that appeals to me sounds much better on my CD player than vinyl ever sounded. Obviously, I like music and that's why I have the best of both formats. However, in this day-and-age, vinyl does not hold a candle to well recorded digital.
However, in this day-and-age, vinyl does not hold a candle to well recorded digital.Indeed! New music almost always sounds better on a good affordable CDP than it does on a good expensive TT. Older music, say pre-94, almost always sounds better to me in it's vinyl form on a good affordable TT setup (not really inexpensive) than on a more expensive CDP.
Note I say "almost" and exceptions aren't hard to come by.
worked for Donny!LOL
ps.
On a just slightly more serious note, do you own a RCM? Those CD recordings certainly weren't made from pampered LPs, not bad mind you, but certainly no where near mint. I find my RCM really help with my thrift finds.
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
Which CD recordings do you have of mine? Do you think my VPI might be defective? Unfortunately, it is probably not still under warranty. ;-)
Pete Fountain LPs (CD recording of).I imagine the 17F is fine provided it still spins and sucks.
Hey, perhaps you could contact the memeber that is sending out samples of the (secret) Miraculous Clean Fuild Formula, I dunno if it makes scratches disappear but it's supposed to to work so well that it makes the boutique brands seem a complete waste of money. So the story goes anyway!
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
It does work just as well as the boutique cleaners and in a lot of cases it works better as you can mix to your own requirements where you are limited with the boutiques I have had sent to me as it comes pre mixed.
Does it eliminate scratches,no and no-one has ever made that statement. Now you are talking shit. You seem to fall into this same old routine with just about every post you place in this forum. If you are such a sceptic why don't you contact me and get a sample to try. Could be the best thing you ever did for your lp's and it will save you heaps of $$$$$$$4. 16 times the amount of cleaning fluid for the same price as what you pay for some of these boutiques. Oh you better hurry as this one might get deleted again.
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No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
Hey, those Pete Fountain LPs are old and most of them were purchased used. Personally, I think Pete Fountain is the best traditional jazz clarinetist who ever lived. However, he never made a very high-fidelity record in his life. But, he played a jazz clarinet better than anyone who ever lived.If you would like me to send you some CD-Rs of clean, crisp, high-fidelity, LPs from my SOTA, I would be happy to do so. You cannot make a determination of the sonic quality of my turntable from any of the Pete Fountain recordings I might have sent to you.
Please email me if you would like some high-fidelity material from my turntable.
Never mind about Artie Shaw, not 'traditional', I know.
Probable not worth the effort, I'm one of those plebeians that thinks Pete Fountain "The Blues" is a fantastic sounding LP (yes great sound) so the really good stuff would likely be lost on me! :)Anyway you been more that generous already and I really enjoy those CDs warts and all; and no matter what you say I think the OC9 recording have an obvious silky smooth sonic character that could never be called "neutral" but that none the less sound luscious.
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