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In Reply to: Re: NPR just ran a Vinyl story posted by Kenny Brant on April 16, 2007 at 06:31:47:
I see a resurgence in vinyl as netting out to be a good thing;
- there will likely be an increase in the prices of used vinyl.
- an increase in the availability of new releases, reprints and vinyl related paraphanelia.
- a likely drop in new vinyl prices.
- but most importantly, an increase in folks willing to sit down and just listen to music.
- and the cherry on top for me would be, we may even see a return to recordings with little or no processing.
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there will likely be an increase in the prices of used vinyl.
- this is extremely bad for me becuase I want mostly used vinyl. Some re-issues that I cannot find in used but the used being closer to the master, etc ad nauseum.an increase in the availability of new releases, reprints and vinyl related paraphanelia.
- see point 1 and what more paraphernalia do we need?a likely drop in new vinyl prices.
- I personally don't want new vinyl unless it is an analog master using tubed equipment ... overall, that is.but most importantly, an increase in folks willing to sit down and just listen to music.
- who cares what other people do. how does that make any difference to me?and the cherry on top for me would be, we may even see a return to recordings with little or no processing.
- so maybe if this was true then it will overall be a good thing.
the net effect is unknown.
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Agree, O'M, on the central 'mostly used vinyl' emphasis.
I'd even add that with the exception of some seriously carefully-crafted releases, new vinyl is very often pretty bad, generated from digital recordings that were made, monitored, mastered and produced to be :: all-digital efforts,Record mastering and production in the Era was a specific "how does it sound played back from the groove" proposition. Not a bedroom-tascam-straight-to-protools-then-pressed-on-the-nightshift kinda thing. Geoff Emerick talks in his book about having to fly down to EMI/Abbey Rd on a call from Paul or John in the middle of the night in order to warm up the preamps and transports in time to get a new track on tape. All heavy machinery and tubes. No plastic, no fcking around.
Which gets to the main point. One aspect of the "increase in the availability of new releases", is that the new releases, the good ones , whether new or reissue material --- are very limited release and few in actual number overall. Which means that unlike the Era of a few million pressed of one title, there's now a built-in Collector's Market -- read 'snooty, picky, overpriced and over-impressed with the wrong things'...... That will disallow later record listeners relatively easy access or reasonable pricing once these boutique-styled puppies hit the "used" market.Never again the incredible buyer's market we've had in the last few years --- superior sound at two or three dollars a throw --- for those future record collectors.
Future Record Collector A
" Ha ! Just picked up the #0456 limited edition copy of Hotel California for only two hundred bucks ! Beat that, smartypants future record collector B ! "
Future Record Collector B
" That's nothing ! I just found the #0321 limited edition Frampton Comes Alive ... only three hundred bucks, and it's a double Lp ! "
those old 6eyes or "made in the 70s" things will trump anything new ... in my system, in my opinion, in my world.This audiophile carp is fahooty. I was fooled a tiny bit lately. Linda Ronsdtadt ~ Heart Like A Wheel was shiny pictured in an audiophile sales rag and I thought maybe that sounds good enough to be AUDIOPHILE?!? So I found a used and listened to it. What a joke - it is fair pop with some good guitar work on some cuts but why in the world you would go new 200 gram audiophile over it is a fooles question.
"I yam whut I yam"
I thought the discussion was about vinyl supplanting all else as the preferred hard copy choice. Perhaps this was a bad assumption on my part. I was thinking that increased users will allow for high volume production (and sales) thereby bringing the price down for quality reissues (perhaps). As you allude to, limited run reissues are pricey in large part because of the small runs. But...I don't see vinyl supplanting anything though. As much as vinyl sales increase each year, I don't see the curve high enough to ever get to that point in my lifetime where it would be taken seriously as a format. This is more to what Jazz-Vinyl was talking about: 55 billion sales to 1 million sales. So, in the end, I'm left to dream about it while I go through shock therapy upon examining DCC reissue prices on ebay.
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