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Thanks to those who gave me some pointers. Fortunately, my studs were exactly in the right spot. Does that make me studley? I have 4 stud anchors in place and my turntable isn't going anywhere. I even had room for my little Creek OBH8SE preamp (upper left). Ariston RD-40 with plinth mod, Sumiko Blue Point Special evo III, Sumiko OEM arm, MAD phono cables and interconnects. Sounds great and is easier on the back when cleaning the stylus n' records.
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Hi FezCo or anybody for that matter,How hi did you place the shelf from the floor ?
How did you pick the Appollo over the Target shelf if you looked at both ?
I doubt though you could use some kind of additional isolation base, maple, sand box, etc... with the wall shelf because of additional weight
Thanks,
Hi FezCo,That looks great! What size hardware did you end up using to attach your wallrack?
I just picked up an apollo myself, but haven't installed it yet. I was thinking about using 4 x #14 (about 1/4"), 3" long screws ... into two studs.
Hopefully, you've got a chunk of the lucrative Shriners market. (-:
Well you know what the guys from Steely Dan say: "You can't do it without the fez on"
Besides... don't we all have a favorite listening hat? Mine happens to be my Fez.
Indeed the turntable mount works really well. I can't imagine using it with a non-floating plinth or without some type of isolation though. At least in my current surroundings the glass plane of the Apollo will vibrate if the SPLs in the room get too high. I never experienced low frequency feedback with my old arrangement since the platform was fairly mass loaded. I'm experiencing no feedback whatsoever.
hat. Probably helped keep the sweat out of his eyes while he was whaling on Gary.I've got to say, FezCo is one of the best business names I've heard in a long time. You should get some business cards printed up.
...wall-mounted shelves are glass. some have isolation built into them as well, which makes it possible to use a wall-mounted shelf with a non-suspended table.generally speaking, a non-suspended table will be better on a wall-mounted shelf of the same material as a floor-standing shelf. glass usually isn't the best choice for shelf material, as a general rule.
better results with a different shelf material. A cheap experiment would be a scrap of 3/4" ply (or MDF, or slate, or...) to replace the glass.
...was quite possibly the single biggest improvement i made in my system in the last 10 years.
My family and I live in an old house with springy floors. When I had a suspended Thorens turntable I tried a handful of isolation schemes I read about in the archives here. But in the end I simply had to wall mount it, move the system to the basement, or chain my kids up when music was playing.Since switching to a much heavier and more stable idler turntable I no longer *have* to place it on a wall mount. But it sounds better that way, enough so that I don't foresee putting it back on a rack so long as we live where we do.
That looks superb!!!I currently have a wall mount shelf that I built myself, as the floors in this old house are rather on the spongy side and are an acoustical feedback nightmare!
Sad to say, I'll "apartmenting" in a few weeks (nasty situation there!) and will once again have to "stand" the 'table. At least the floor is carpet over concrete...
"David! You can KILL a man with a chopstick!" -Keith Charles, Six Feet Under
I was so proud; in amongst the 6 trillion or so pieces of lath behind the horse-hair plaster I found some actual boards in the wall that would hold the braces . I couldn't sneeze or even scrath my crotch without sending the stylus on a journey across a record and walking lightly was not something a 250 lb. man could do (well, maybe just 230 back then).I attached the shelf board to the braces, put my Thorens on the shelf after giving it the "can I do a pull-up" test, connected up the wires, placed a record on the platter, lifted the tone-arm and placed the stylus upon the record, and immediately heard AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Feedback the likes of which no one has ever heard and if so, ever recovered from! Nearly destroyed the cells of my brain; I could hear those little brain cells popping in my head! Almost loud enough to crack the double brick walls between my side and the other side of the duplex I lived in.
Awakened the wee child lying in his crib upstairs and he began wailing, my wife began wailing, I was wailing as I tried to turn off the Marantz integrated and silence the racket! It was scary as hell for a brand new audio enthusiast!
I called the friend that had infected me with audioitis, the one who had sold me his gear. He asked me if I had used the rubber feet that came with the Thorens or tried the spikes he'd given me. I had used the rubber feet for awhile, but the spikes had alleviated some of the foot-fall problems I had, so they were on the table when I sat it upon the wall shelf. A few weeks before, I'd been told to put a quarter on the headshell by the little old lady that ran the record store in town because a record I'd bought from her skipped (I didn't do what she'd suggested), so when Craig told me to put quarters under the spikes I was a bit hesitant...but it worked!
I was happy, my kid was happy, my wife was happy, and most of all, my Thorens was happy!
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If I had more money I'd soon be broke...but I'd have more LPs!
Makes for a faster more fleshed out midrange from what I am told....
stand, but it was out of my reach for now. I did look at the Apollo Wall shelf though, but the wall studs will not allow for alignment with the stand. So i doubt I can use the wall mount. But I'm trying to figure a way to line it up and still have proper support without compromising the looks of the room.
That said, Now maybe I can do some tweaking to the system. The closed in cabinet is a pain to try to do anything. Changing anything was a challenge. After enough grumbling, the wife gave me the go ahead on an open rack. So I just ordered a VTI rack for my system. Its not the last word in isolation, but it has potential with some tweaks.
Maybe this will hold me till I can build my listening room
Life has lots of trials and lots of music to help us through them.
If you can open the wall (just where you want the shelf to go) to the studs. You can put a horizontal brace that will give you something to attach the shelf to.
This is done in bathrooms for the elderly or disabled so grab bars can be installed securely.
good luck
mdr
Overall, circumstances permitting, I'd never go back to rackmount.Wallshelfing lets you take the turntable on as system unto itself , with all setup procedures focussed on placing the needle in the rotating groove.
( Not inches from the cd transport, or where the Fm receiver best reaches the antenna, or physically in-line with 4,5,6 varying Ac transformers in other components ... etc. )
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