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newbie here...i just got a rega p2 (with glass platter) last week (one of the last remaining ones in stock apparently). i purchased this from vladimir at north country audio (great guy by the way with impeccable customer service). i'd heard great things about the p2 (for entry level) and was thoroughly excited to get my table. vladimir installed a goldring 1006 cart and i got a grado ph-1 phono pre amp off audiogon to go with it. i'm only about 5 or 6 hours into the cart, but i have to say, i am underwhelmed.to me it seems like i am listening to a cd. it's not what i expected at all. my previous rig consisted of a dj grade stanton str8-80 direct drive with built in phono stage and a stanton al-500ii cart. to this setup sounded dare i say better and more analog. maybe it was the lack of detail and muddied midrange that added to the "Warmth". Perhaps it was the inherent distortion of that rig. the rega p2/goldring on the other hand sounds hollow in the middle. the highs are crsystalline and the detail is great, as well as imagiging and soundstage. the bass is a little weak and the midrange, to me seems like its gone into hiding. overall it's a very clinical, analytical sound, not the prototypical analog warmth i was expecting. full disclosure, i am listening to this through my ht setup while i am putting together my 2 channel rig. this consists of a pioneer vsx-1015tx reciever (in direct mode for music) powering an energy take 5.2 system with and m&k subwoofer. now granted this isnt the best system for 2 channel listening, but this was the same system that played warmer with my stanton.
perhaps the goldring is just a bad match for my system. it maybe too bright with an already bright pair of speakers and possibly bright amp.
perhaps the goldring just hasnt had a enough break in time.
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thanks everyone for the responses. when i got the goldring i mentioned the AT440 and the Denon DL-110 and he recommended the goldring over these 2. He thought the AT was too analytical and lacking life if I remember correctly and same for the Denon, at least in comparison in to the Goldring 1006. I've heard good things about the Shure, and obviously good things about the Dynavector.
Then put on your boogie shoes.Hukk
I'm about to buy a 10x5 i think, what is 'denuded'??
C-J. the stanton tt and cart was sold off on ebay just as i got my new table, so unable to switch out the carts to test. secondly, i know that ht receivers are a joke for music, but i was using the same receiver when listening to the stanton. so as long as that variable stays the same i can focus on the p2 and its sound. i am going to try to make sure everything is set up correctly tonight again.does anyone have any similar experiences with the goldring carts? do they need a sizeable amount of hours before they start to sound good?
I have the same P2 and have used a Dynavecter 10x4 and had some similar results of sounding a little too bright and forward in my system. I recently tried my old Shure V15 IV and was surprised at how much better the P2 sounds to me now. It is a more natural and balanced sound but still has all the details that are there. Unfortunately these carts. are no longer made but maybe you can find something with similar characteristics.I wish I had a specific recommendation ,Also you might try a different phono amp. I really like the P2 and hope you find something that works for you.
Hi.Why not put back the old Stanton cartridge & see it will bring back the sound you like?
For me, I never use any 5.1 or even 7.1 HT receivers for decent stereo music, let alone LPs. Musically, they are jokes, IMO. Don't forget they are for movies, totally different sonic equalization.
C-J. the stanton tt and cart was sold off on ebay just as i got my new table, so unable to switch out the carts to test. secondly, i know that ht receivers are a joke for music, but i was using the same receiver when listening to the stanton. so as long as that variable stays the same i can focus on the p2 and its sound. i am going to try to make sure everything is set up correctly tonight again.does anyone have any similar experiences with the goldring carts? do they need a sizeable amount of hours before they start to sound good?
series cart. The 1042 is supposed to be pretty good but it's $300+. I did not particularly care for the 1012 I had in a MMF-5 table.
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
..I use Goldrings own phonostage with it ( PA1 ), so there maybe some synergie going on, but then it does display similar characteristics though a EAR834P.
Greetings from Rob in the UK.
..the Goldring 1012gx and it's anything but sterile in my 1210mk2, what I have found however is it's VERY sensitive to VTA, tried it in my Dads system over at there house ( his speakers were as much as my system ! ) and it's definatly colder sounding than say a Grado, i'd say the 1012gx is not far off the Ortofon Super OM30, which I reakon gets a bit more out of the groove.
Greetings from Rob in the UK.
henry, would you mind expounding your post a little more. what did you not like about it?
I found the Goldring to sound, well, sterile. It wasn't bright or anything, just thin and uninvolving. I removed it and installed a Grado Red and all was well. Although Prestidge Grados often have hum problems with Regas I had none with the MMF-5.
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
Going from the Goldring 1012 to the Dyna 10x5 on my MMF5 was just like night and day, even with the $50 junky block I used as a preamp before I switched to the Jolida. There's not much left to say after that I guess...
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Henry, I completely agree with this assesment of the 1006. To me it sounds sterile and lifeless. Don't know if I should eek it out for a while hoping break in will cure it, or just return it now. I'm glad the Grado cart worked out for you, but I've heard bad things about Grado carts and Rega arms (the dreaded "Grado Hum"). Thanks by the way for your input.In that case, are there any inexpensive (less than 200) carts anyone can recommend that have some life to them. I'm looking for something with a warm midrange with some bass authority and gentle highs. Definitely not looking at anything can be described as bright, analytical, harsh, sterile. etc.
If you can run a high output MC cart, I highly recommend the Denon DL-160 or the little brother DL-110. William Thakker on eBay has good prices on them.
Another good choice for your listed listening tastes is the Shure M97xE. It's available for around $60 at Amazon.
HenryA 12-gauge shotgun is the ultimate arbiter of disputes - G. Gordon Liddy
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