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can you offer your views on this product - cleaning effectiveness,
effect on the sound, amount of residue left on the record, etc.I did purchase a bottle, and then noticed the mixing instructions called for the concentrate to be mixed with 1 gallon or 5 litres of distilled water. This caused me to wonder about the credibility of the product as 1 US gallon is about 3.8 litres.
Does anyone out there have an idea what is in this product?
Years ago, I remember the Discwasher D3 /D4 series of brush and fluids were supported by technospeak advertising terms such as "unidirectional fibers" "solubilisation" "micro-dust" and promises of low residue. It was later that I read somewhere that the cleaning fluid was just water with a small amount of Ivory dishwashing liquid.
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I tried this product and found it isn't as effective in cleaning records as the RRL deep cleaner followed by a rinse with the super wash.
I have just started using this fluid with my Moth Vacuum Cleaning machine and it is very effective indeed. I am most impressed by the high levels of cleanliness achieved. Most LPs are becoming playable. With more capable machines than mine it should do even more. I previously used a 60/40 mix of distilled water and industrial methylated spirit (98%)which was fine, but not quite so effective. It also made one dizzy if one cleaned too many LPs in one go without adequate ventilation, L'Art du Son does not have this effect :-)As for dilution - I checked with Loricraft themselves, the dilution is 5 ml (one teaspoon) to 200 ml distilled water. This means that your bottle of 100 ml L'Art du Son fluid will make 4 litres of cleaner. The exact amount of dilution is not vital so the estimate of one bottle = 1 gallon is quite close whichever gallon you use as reference.
Dave
Methylated spirits contain methyl alcohol also known as wood alcohol and is poisonous even if absorbed through the skin. Even though you are using this in low concentrations it is best to minimize your exposure to toxic substances.
True. In the UK you need a license to even buy this stuff. It comes in bottles covered with all sorts of warnings about flammability and about breathing it in. It includes a note about 'wood alcohol' or methanol 'Denatured with not more than 4% methanol'. I've been using it carefully in well ventilated surroundings for years now. One of the key points about L'Art du Son is that it isn't alcoholic and is thus much safer to use.
I tried it in a shoot out that I did earlier between 3 cleaning products. This is incomplete work so I may post the results one day when I have had a chance to try what appears to be Vinyl Asylum's fave, RRL.Anyway so far L'Art du Son comes out the worst for two reasons. It clearly alters the sound of the record. Some may like the change but I would rather hear what was intended. At least L'Art du Son are honest in their literature and clearly refer to the product having a sound of its own. The second reason is that I found it prone to evaporate before I could vacuum it (the UK instructions as amended by Loricraft suggest leaving it for several minutes before vacuuming). However it was unusually hot weather (for England) at the time. It also degrades so unless you use 5 litres over a handful of months then you will end up throwing the remainder away which makes it very expensive. Oh and it smells like a tart's boudoir ( I guess!).
It's also quite green in that it bio-degrades but I found it did this too quickly. I had mould forming, you're supposed to be ok if you mix it up but I don't fancy putting mould on my records, even very diluted. Given the strictly pure water used it seems strange to think it's ok to mix in mould.
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> > > wonder about the credibility of the product as 1 US gallon is about 3.8 litres.But 1 REAL gallon is 4.545 litres. Gallons without the prefix US should be assumed to be the real thing. Just like English without American infront is the real thing too. :-)
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