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Trying to fill in some 'holes' of box sets I passed on previously; still availible from Rhino via True Blue Music for about $120.00 cheaper than Acoustic Sounds. Can anyone comment on the sound quality of these 180 gram pressings? I have the cd set which sounds superb(for digital, anyway!) but the allure of the vinyl set keeps lurking. Or can someone give a decent reason for passing it up?
Thanks,
John
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am I missing something?
But I think it was somewhere around $180, new from Rhino. Averaging about $20/lp seems in line with my recollection.
and she informs me that I misread Redbook's post. It's a 120.00 price differential between True Blue and Acoustic Sounds, not 120.00 for the set!
I have compared the set to the individual originals I have and I would say that overall the set is better. The pressings are quieter and a little more detailed IMO. I got mine at the Aron's GOOBS for $90.00.
I also have the set and many of the originals, the Rhino set is every bit as good.Also, I really like the way they made the albums as they were, and then added the extra material on separate LP's, rather than the chronological approach of Mosaic for example (although the sound quality of Mosaics is stellar).
.......The Rhino Vinyl 180 gram of Coltrane's "Giant Steps"
Apparently masted by Kevin Gray at AcousTech.While I don't have original pressings to compare this against,The Lp seems eminently listenable to my ears. Btw, this individual Lp sold for $13.99 retail at a Seattle area record shop. Maybe 1 year ago when I picked it up.
Presumably the box set you are looking at is more remastering from AcousTech..?
I have the set and think it sounds great. I do not have any other Coltrane on vinyl to compare it to, but it doesn't sound as good as any of the mosaic vinyl sets for instance. It does sounds a whole lot better than any of the variety of impulse Coltrane titles I have on CD though. I bought my set on Ebay like a year ago thinking it was out of print but I paid like $80 for mint condition, well worth it at the price.
the originals of most of those I have. They are not as hard to find, obviously, as your average BN 1500 series. Maybe they didn't take as much care with the production- hey, it was Atlantic. But those records sold alot more than your typical Blue Note- it was a major label. The music, as you know, will make you levitate. Here is a case where I think you'll find the originals at equal to or less than the price than the reissues if you look a bit. If you find trashed, danced- to, reefer rolled copies, keep looking, they are out there. IMHO "clean" copies of Trane on Atlantic is a relative term; the only clean thing might be your soul after listening to them. But how good can 180g reissues be, soundwise, of records that, again soundwise, were not that well recorded to start with? Get the originals and turn them up-
PPS Corrections more than welcome from anyone with the reissues who maintains otherwise- I thought long and hard about buying that box before deciding that it was not worth it for me...
of Atlantic stuff. I'm not fond of their soundstaging techniques for stereo but that was relatively common in those days. But I don't think Trane's sound was ever better recorded.As I posted above, with respect I disagree. I think the Rhino box is sonically every bit as good as the originals are. The one instance where I would take that back is if one is particularly fond of mono. I have Coltrane's Sound and My Favorite Things on early (white fan) mono pressings, and I actually prefer the stereo despite the extreme panning. But the difference is quite large and I could imagine someone not caring for the stereo of the Rhino box.
Thanks. I just might try it, especially if I can find it for around 90 bucks, and since I found the originals for a low price, anyhow. As you mentioned, I find some of the Atlantic stereo records a distraction, but I can listen around that, easily. I guess I prefer Van Gelder's rendering of Trane's sound, and that may be just because that is the first way I heard it. Also the Atlantic way with rythmn sections can really bug me (not PC's sound on Bags and Trane, though). Good description and a good excuse to listen to that stuff over again, all different ways (as if an excuse is needed)
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the originals are better (even with pops and crackles). My personal favorite is Giant Steps and I have the original atlantic with the black and silver label. I've got a reissue (atlantic) as well as the rhino and the coltrane box set as well. Sorry, but the old, original just outshines the others -- particularly, while using a helikon mono cartridge. Just glorious sound.I do think that the box set is a worthwhile purchase but it is limited relative to the original licorice.
I bought it at least 10 years ago or so.The mastering job is pretty good.
Yes, genuine 60's pressings sound better but for a nice, all-in-one package the Heavyweight Champion set is Great. I really like the Giant Steps from that set as well as My Favorite things. Those sound Excellent.
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Al G
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