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In Reply to: Shinon Red Re-tipping, possible and/or worthwhile? posted by dnewma04 on September 10, 2006 at 10:38:03:
I have a Shinon Red Boron which was a replacement by the importer around 1991, the original had it's cantilever collapse. At that time the MSRP was $900. It had the reputation as a "poor man's Koetsu" because the sonics were similar to the Rosewood for nearly a third the cost. Mine still sounds wonderful (estimate still <1,000 hours and suspension remains good). My bat-eared audio friends cannot believe the age of this cartridge. I believe there was a Red as well as the Red Boron, the latter of course signifies the cantilever.The above offers background without answering your question but hope it is helpful. I would contact Van den Hul for information/pricing on a new stylus.
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I used to sell the Shinon: made in Japan and imported by a guy up in Canada, IIRC. I believe they all had boron cantilevers which gave them that dynamic quality. The first generation did have have a problem with collapsing cantilevers as you point out. The later models were not quite so sweet, but at least lasted fairly long. AS you correctly point out VdH and Benz, in addition to others, can retip the cartridge. Make sure you retain the boron cantilever, though!
Production ceased when stricter OSHA laws were enacted in Japan and thus limited the availability of born (potentially toxic in dust and vapor form. I believe that's the same reason given for Shure elimination of the V15 type V.
Stu
Stu:
Your comment made me curious so I went through Audio's annual Directory mags from around 1990. They listed a Red Boron and Red Boron Signature, nothing simply called Red. You must be right that all in the Red series had boron cantilevers.The two things that amaze me the most about mine are that it is still functional, and even more that it sounds as good as it does. I really don't know about the hours as it has been in and out of the system over the years. Naturally, I wonder about groove damage because of tip wear so I've had younger folks with better high frequency hearing than I do listen and no one can tell me of any sonic problem. So, I call it my EB (Energizer Bunny).
M3 lover
I remember the signatures, too. They looked identical to the older Reds! Maybe better copper purity for the windings.....
Stu
StuI believe the Shure issue was with Beryllium, not Boron
I doon't believe there is any particular toxicity in volver with Boron, in fact I was and I suppose still am, wondering why Shure didn't just switch to a Boron Cantilever ?Apparently Beryllium is indeed some very toxic stuff.
Kind regards Fred
it is an almost impossible job. I have been personally told by vdH, Len Gregory (the Cartridge Man) and Martin G. who does the Phonophono work and for many others, that it is impossible to remove the stylus from the cantilever (especially while still attached to the coil assembly) and replace it with a new stylus. Therefore the whole assembly is replaced.
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