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In Reply to: Re: Allsop Orbitrac 2 Bullshit ! posted by Fred J on December 19, 2005 at 03:15:22:
Whoa! Sorry to open a can o' worms. I guess that's the danger of just repeating things you hear or read. Good to have you guys around.
"If you base your buying decisions primarily on Stereophile recommendations you can be virtually assured of spending a great deal of money and achieving modest results at best."Dare I mention that I used to be a reviewer for Stereophile? But it was purely classical recordings--no equipment. So you won't have to kick me out of the Asylum or anything. Or at least not for that! Maybe for giving bad advice, though.
-Bob
Follow Ups:
I'd venture to say not all the inmates would agree with my opinion on Stereophile,and I do enjoy reading it on occaison, but I do it for the humor and absurdity, once I get past the music reviews and interesting advertisements etc.I am an absurdist and I find the sheer pomposity, elitism
and disingenuous nature of Stereophile quite humorous or at the very least fairly ammusing.My hard on for Stereophile is largely based on the fact that they
seem to feel that unless you have $10K= or more to spend on a system
you're not really an Audiophile and $10K would be considered very minimalist, Where $20 to $30k is where respectability begins, I remember reading a Pre-amp review a number of years ago, the reviewers synopsis was that while this component was essentially a somewhat respectable performer, and it would probably be fine for the summer cottage or guest bedroom, that one should keep in mind that it was in fact rather decent in it's own way as, realitically what can you expect from such a modestly priced pre-amp (which was like $3,495.00) I find this laughable, as I suppose if you're a noted Cardiologist that owns a few burger Kings and his own clinic etc. or a partner in the Mendellian or cali Cartel, it doesn't make much difference and presents no problem.But it's really pure bullshit,as any number of Vintage,used or
even new pre-amps that cost $1500 or less would smoke that particular pre-amp and that there are $500 Vintage pre-amps that may have some coloration etc. but are more musical and enjoyable which they fail to mention, so someone just getting into the hobby may start reading this crap for a few months and logically conclude being an Audiophile and doing it at all right is not unlike the expense of operating a twin engine aircraft so why bother ?
Fred,Just for the record, I took no offense at all at your comments about Stereophile. I have great respect for, and like very much, the one person there that I worked with, then music editor Richard Lehnert. The others I met (very briefly, at a Sterophile show) were very kind and gracious. But with my budget, I'm more in the $ensible Sound category!
-Bob
Bob- I have a short fuse, and more often than I should shoot from the hip, I really wasn't meaning to slam you per se, but just pissed off about the seemingly never ending Michael Fremmers Fronting for or schilling for Alsop and all the poor proletariet types like myself shelling out their hard earned money and wasting their time based on their misdirected trust in disingenuous (dare I say it ? ;-)sleazoid) Audiophool Poohbah's like Fremer and Sam Telig amongst others.I should have reflected on it and written a better, more lucid post
where it was obvious that It wasn't directed at you and for that I apologize, and look forward to chatting with you a lot in the future.
The VA is a lot friendlier place than I made it seem.
I appreciate your comments, Fred. And again, no problem. I didn't take your comments as being directed against me at all.
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