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In Reply to: Beatles question posted by gonzo on December 14, 2005 at 15:19:23:
And, while there are occassionally lable variants, the easiest way to tell is by which label was used. Capitol's Black w/ rainbow boarder = 1st pressing through the White Album, which was on Apple. Let it Be used a red, instead of green label.The black with boarder label was brought back in the late 80s, but should be easy to tell, as the jackets have bar codes, and the vinyl is thinner (among other differences).
Prior to Sgt. Peppers, the US albums were truncated versions of their UK counterparts, and Capitol engineers added obnoxious echo to make the blokes sound less British. This is less pronounced on the mono versions. Mono versions of Sgt. P and MMT are just plain scarce, as mono pressings stopped in late 67.
Also, several US only compilations were cobbled together from the deleted tracks and non lp singles.
If your actually picking up Beatles albums at yard sale prices, you're doing better than most. Even purple label versions have some value, as long as they're not trashed.
PS, The vast majority of "Introducing the Beatles" (their first US album, on Vee Jay) are phonies, so know what you're doing before paying more than a couple of bucks for a copy of this one.
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HiIt's not correct to say " Capitol's Black w/ rainbow boarder = 1st pressing " ...
When, I beleive, all Capitol releases of the early Beatles titles, be they first or thirty-first pressings, had the black label with the rainbow border.
I recall picking up 'Meet The Beatles' & 'Beatles '65' as cut-outs at a supermarket in the seventies and they still had the black / rainbow label.
Cost was $1.99, I think. First pressings they were not.
The black with rainbow border label was in production through 1969. With the exception of the olive vs. brown cover variety on Meet The Beatles there is nothing I know of to tell whether a version was pressed in the year of its issue or 1969. Therefore, according to the Goldmine guides they are all first pressings until they switched to the lime green label, which was used until 1972. Then there was the red label. orange label, purple label and new black w/ colorband version.If you know of trailoff wax clues that can better pinpoint the date of pressing, or of some other means I'll defer.
Also, all mono albums were black with colorband, and I bet all remaining copies were remaindered when mono was dropped. Do you recall if yours was mono or stereo?
Hi,Sorry, cannot recall on the mono issue. These were at the time replacement copies for me, so none of those "I remember exactly" braincells kick in, the way they do for the orig purchases. (I remember riding my bicycle with a copy of the new Rubber Soul in it's Sears Roebuck bag..... )
My only point re the 'first pressing' designation was, that a given example of 'Beatles 65' could be the first record pressed by capitol or the millionth, regardless of it's black & rainbow label, which as you point out, didn't change for years.
Here's a link which has some info on Stamper # etc --- scroll all the way down the page to 'Matrix Numbers'.
J.
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