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i'm on the road again and, as usual, try to hit the thrifts which are often a goldmine of vinyl. only prob is, i can't play this stuff in my car which (i hate to admit) only has a cassette player. does anyone on this list have a vinyl playback system in their car? i remember riding buses in Turkey in the late 1960s that had small 45 rpm players at the front of the bus and provided non-stop music. was this system ever popular in the US?
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Lennon's was in his purple Rolls - mounted in the rear deck, Count Olaf's was a neat-o "dash-mount" R2R in his Chrysler Imperial?/300? (in the Lemony Snicket movie)
As mentioned, Chrysler offered HIway Hifi starting in 1956, used
a 7 inch 16rpm record and used a special .5mil stylus made by
shure.
RCA offered an aftermarket 45 rpm changer (also sold under the
Allstate/Sears and Wards/Riverside brands) that would play up
to 15 45 rpms records automatically. it connected and played
thur the cars radio. The records were played upside down with
a heavy tracking force of 18 grams, it did work and did not skip.
Phillips/Norelco also offered an aftermarket 45 rpm player that
played one 45 at a time, you inserted the record into a slot,
much like todays car CD players.
I had a '55 Olds Golden Anniversery 98 Holiday that had every option known to man that year including in the dash a/c a first for GM as previously it was mounted in the trunk. In addition to power windows, seats, headlight dimmers, auto seek radio, built in tissue box it also had a 45 rpm reecord grinder in the lower middle dash that pulled out in a sort of drawer. It tracked so heavy that after the first play it would play side 2 when still on side one and then the record came out in a spiral...but it worked. I believe it was made by DelcoDave
HenryNecessity is a mother . . .
The "records" were specially made for the unit (and you though hi-rez had crappy selection) and were, indeed, 16 2/3 rpm.
saw somewhere from the early 60s, 16 rpm gives you small size with long play time, not audiophile however... and watch out for the railroad crossings!
Dave
Later Gator,
Crank up your talking machine, grab a jar of your favorite "kick-back", sit down, relax, and let the good times roll.The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
Luckily "speed bumps" weren't common back then . . ouch ! ;8=)
HenryNecessity is a mother . . .
HenryNecessity is a mother . . .
I believe Ford offered a record player option on the T-Bird in the early 60s and that Lincoln offered it in the Continental around the same time. I remember seeing an old brochure with it once. I think it tuched under the dash.
... installing a Linn LP12 with a full Linn pre/pwr and speakers in the top-of-the-range Rolls limo... Specifically targetted at vinyl freaks who want to indulge their passion while commuting.Also included in this package is a remote control that allows the listener in the rear compartment to administer punishment to the driver for every bump/pothole hit that results in a "skip" during playback. Punishments range from a light smack around the earhole for a first & minor offense, to a full castration without anaesthetic for a major offense that results in stylus damage.
On their part, Rolls have seriously upgraded the suspension of the limo to soften the ride and minimise any transmitted vibrations from road irregularities. This upgrade, known by its code-name of "Cirkus", is also retro-fittable to other Rolls models. The upgrade entails the installation of a suspended sub-chassis and new bearings (sound familiar?).
From the Linn side of this project, comes some minor mods to the LP12 - a new 12 volt DC power supply and motor unit with the "package" model name of "Cunning Lingo"...
Still undergoing trials, there is some argument between Rolls and Linn about which speakers to use in the final release - Rolls want Merlins... (not surprisingly...)
So, we'll waited with baited breasts for further news of the planned market launch....
:-))
Can't give you much info about car vinyl players, i second the cassette recommendation, saw a serious looking Sony cassette deck in the thrift for 12 euro or something, seems like the best way to have analog sound in your car. I feel your pain, i spent last week in my sister's house while she was on holiday, she lives in the "big town" so i spent all week hitting the thrifts and used vinyl shops, got a pile of fresh vinyl but alas my sister doesn't have a TT so i couldn't hear them until i got home!Greetings Freek.
In the Finnish director Aki Kaurismaki's wonderful movie, "Take Care of Your Scarf, Tatiana," (I think that's the one) one of his deadpan characters spins 7-inchers on a small table mounted where you'd expect an ashtray. It's a suspended table, so I don't know if the VPI, SME, Clearaudio guys will get the joke.The kicker: I'm pretty sure that this car's record was stock.
If you've not seen a Kaurismaki movie, try 'em! But don't expect to see any of that Sean Penn emoting. They're fun, the Finns, and it seems they like to drink, drive little shitty cars on frozen roads, and spin records. An entire country after my own heart.
The mention of 45rpm playback in Turkish buses made me remember that when I was a child (which means less than 20 years ago, by the way) I used to be an avid user of a yellow box nicknamed "the record-eater" (well, in Italian of course), which, as the name implies, had a mouth-like opening on the front where you could insert a record, which would immediately start being played, and would be spit out when the side was over.
A very cute and child-proof little machine, which I still have at home together with all the singles it has eaten (probably quite literally since the stylus must never have been changed).
Since it was portable, basically as small as a 7" record and with a handle, it's possible that we occasionally used it in the car too. I suspect that's what Turkish bus drivers did?
...Basis Work of Art tables in my 63 VW bug. It holds fewer people but oh, the sound!
eb
why not tape your vinyl?Honestly I got a $150 high-end Denon cassette deck from
ebay --and thats being generous. to my ears they are better
than the car CD player. It could have the analog sound if
done right.
In the 50's, Chrysler briefly marketed a system called Highway Hi-Fi that played records in the car. It was not a commercial success. It played special, proprietary records--not normal LP's--that played at 16 2/3 RPM. (However, the 16 RPM speed on normal turntables that Todd mentions was for playing radio station transcription discs, not the Highway Hi-Fi discs. I believe the Highway Hi-Fi discs also had a super-small groove that would prevent them from being played on a regular turntable.)I believe in-car players for 45's were also marketed in the U.S. for a short period around the early 60's but, again, were not a commercial success. Tape formats soon replaced vinyl for in-car listening.
In addition to talking books use Vox Records briefly tried marketing extra-long-play 16rpm classical music records for home use but they were not a success. Fidelity suffered.Radio transciprtion discs spun at 33.3rpm.
he said it played vertically, and the tracking force needed to make them work in a moving car wore the 45s out in about 20 playings.
I've never seen a car vinyl system, but I was told that the 16 2/3 rpm setting on older turntables was for playing "car" vinyl.I think vinyl playback for the car never got off the ground because of the potential warping from the hot interior during a summer's day...
Dave
Later Gator,
Crank up your talking machine, grab a jar of your favorite "kick-back", sit down, relax, and let the good times roll.The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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