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In Reply to: Wow! results of 20 amp isolated ground in vintage room posted by Supercool! on February 25, 2007 at 05:36:38:
"The major change was an overall "grip" on the sound that was stunning and notable in the attack and weight across most of the frequency spectrum."U hit it on the head as to what a dedicated AC line provides.
"The second point of note was that due to a time bind the electricians installed Leviton duplexes IG5362 20 amp. At $10 a pop at Home Depot they are a steal! They grip extremely well (much better than Hubbels and like P&S) and apparently sound excellent...I have no desire to replace them."
While I too have heard the benefits of dedicated lines and celebrate your newfound "discovery", one needs to only hear what Oyaide products bring to the table before one makes an "uninformed" statement such as what is portrayed above.
Please don't perceive me as chiding your efforts BUT the Levitons are certainly "pedestrian" when compared to the quality/engineering that an Oyaide outlet provides....not to mention the musical rewards :-)
Enjoy,
~kenster
Follow Ups:
It reminds me of the song lyric,"...if lovin' you is wrong, I don't wanna be right."Uninformed" is a bit strong for reasons I'll not extol here, but no offense is taken. I do appreciate your sentiment. I've heard alot of great things about those duplexs and I am sure they are well worth the investgation as I have indeed not yet heard or compared them. There is always more!
You would have gotten a kick out of the incredulous looks the electricians gave me discussing the difference in sound that duplexes can make. They appreciated the idea of clean electric but not the importance of duplex choice. Ultimately, a crimp in my ordering plans landed me with the Levitons and I decided to start with them after reading a post in the archives here.
I had originally planned on using these Levitons as a starting point and then give some others a try. In fact, in keeping with the nature of our obsession, I will probably still do that. What I was trying to convey was that these inexpensive outlets served well and did not apparently bottleneck the benefits of new lines. I was hearing music in a way that was involving,exciting and most of all fun.
I have also purposely kept this room somewhat modest in nature to see what can be wrung out of cost effective applications. Hence the Home Depot wire, and best of all, the same Marantz 2270 and Empire 698 tt I purchased in high school! Modded of course! This is part of the fun.
I do appreciate your suggestion though and you can be sure it is an edorsement I'll consider.
Cheers
Chris
""Uninformed" is a bit strong for reasons I'll not extol here, but no offense is taken."I'm glad U didn't take offense and yes, having reread it, does seem a bit strong and was not intended to offend.
"You would have gotten a kick out of the incredulous looks the electricians gave me discussing the difference in sound that duplexes can make."
Yes, I can visualize the baffled looks one would receive but here would be an excellent opportunity to demonstrate the qualities of high end outlets.
Here is a related story: I had mentioned to the building inspector who was inspecting my house before the purchase about installing a dedicated line to my listening room. Expecting the raised eyebrow from him, he casually turned to me and said that he had inspected Robert Harleys house and recent electrical work that had been done and that Bob treated him to a private listen to his system! Bob is the Editor-in-chief for TAS and had been a long time reviewer for Stereophile. Imagine my surprise :-)
"What I was trying to convey was that these inexpensive outlets served well and did not apparently bottleneck the benefits of new lines. I was hearing music in a way that was involving,exciting and most of all fun."
Understood and my intent of my message was that if U like the Leviton's, the Oyaides will certainly cause a long term case of "permagrin". They have with me :-)
Cheers,
~kenster
I really should AB the PS audio and the Leviton. The leviton was intended for my test bench wich is in my listening room and the outlets are side by side. It's just that ever since I put the Spendor BC-1 spealers in my system, all I want to do is listen to music! I have also been working on my Kenwood KT-8005 Tunner. Cleaning the switched with Deoxit is revealing that it is acutully in pretty good shape althoug it is a little rough looking. I will post about the PS audio outlet and the Kenwood when I get some clear results.Dave
"I will post about the PS audio outlet and the Kenwood when I get some clear results."Excellent. The PS Audio outlets were my first foray into high end AC outlets and were certainly MUCH better than anything offered in the local hardware store.
Looking forward to your post.
Cheers,
You certainly can't fault them on build quality. How that translates to sound is yet to be decided for me.
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