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In Reply to: line conditioners - anyone use em? posted by pappy 1st on February 17, 2007 at 20:07:47:
I love and use line conditioners. I use a Tripp LITE conditioner stabilizer , Now heres the skinny.. when i got into audio i never tried it without a stabilizer/conditioner so i cannot say what the difference is.
Its just common sence you need a stable power supply and a filter of some sort.
I know ther are high end units available but i like my old cream colored tripp lite unit and it takes the fuzz out. There is a subtle fuzz without it. Am i wrong?..I hear a fuzz when its not plugged in.
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here is a dumb question maybe but can a line conditioner also act as a surge protector or not?
I have several Tripp Lite LC1800's in use. Not only do they act as a surge protector but also protect against brownouts. More than once I have been at my computer when the power dropped enough to turn off the TV—my computer never flickered.
I was in the computer business and sold the Triplites, but even the Triplite rep agreed that those the products that recontsruced the sinewave were not good for audio because they did it in steps. You don't get a clear sinewave out of then. This is not a problem for digital equipment but not what you want for analog.
Here we go again. I did not mention anything about sound quality as it becomes a pissing contest. Perhaps you should've told your rep to tell TrippLite to stop using the term noise suppressor or advertising audio quality filtering. I use them for protection and stability. Any change in audio quality? I am remiss to say. I imagine that if I spent $5,000 on a Megatron 8800K Bi-Radical, Quad Drive Line Conditioner and $100/foot on gold plated, nitrogen treated, hermatically sealed, non-oxidizing Foo Foo cable I would be telling everyone how great the sound improved. But, I didn't.
Noise suppression is not the sine wave transformer that protects you against voltage sag. They are two different functions and I do not believe they market them for audio systems. I check their website, and although they used to market them separately, they now include them only as part of a UPS system. I see no inconsistency in their marketing.I'm getting fantasic sound with 12 gague zip! I recommend it highly.
Which is why I don't make a broad comment on something specific. Key words—"used to." I stated the model I use. Comments should be addressed about it not TrippLite. I know of very few salemen that are familiar with a company's entire line and features.
The TrippLite manufactures reps were very good and knew the entire product line. I was the "salesman" who was selling configuring computer systems on a GSA schedule of literally thousands of products. If a made a bad recommendation, it could lose my company tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars and would surely be the end of my job. If I did not know it, I found it out.There have been many posts in the various forums that have recommended computer specific products for audio, when it was inappropriate.
The original poster, pappy 1st was asking about line conditioners and if they acted as surge protectors and you gave a good example of the benefits of line conditioners. I thought that it would be helpful to point out that the transformer line conditioner that TrippLite makes were not appropriate for stereo equipment. I looked up the LC1800 and give that it weighs only 10.4 lbs.; it could not be a transformer. Also, as you stated, TrippLite does recommend it for AV equipment. I was adding what I thought was an important detail, not attacking you post.
Mine must be older then and weigh almost 14 lbs, 13.8 IIRC. Perhaps FYI one of your reps can tell you the difference. The details aren't important to me.
I'm out of the business now. There wasn't enough money in it for the stress involved!
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