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I bought one QUANTUM ELECTROCLEAR QRT-1 unit (I figured for $19, it was worth a try) and am wondering if anyone can tell me if it has to go in the same outlet as the system, or is this similar to the Symphony in that it exerts an "effect" over a large area regardless of which outlet it is attached to? Also, what experiences have people had with these things?
Thanks,
Chris
PS: Will this work with the Hammond choke tweak we've been discussing?
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I have the large wall-wart looking device from Quantum that you plug into an outlet, nothing can be plugged into the wall-wart device...For the first few days I thought it really 'cleaned up' the sound. I've recently removed it and am happier. I did try it on other outlets about 20' away but on the same circuit. I also tried it on the same circuit as my fridge/stove & microwave.
don't think i'm buying it...
In the UK, where I live, the ElectroClear for UK use has no way to plug devices into the thing itself, only permitting deployment of the device in the proximity of the system. I acquired one ElectroClear last week. I use a Ben Duncan Pure Power isolation transformer from which all my equipment is run. The earth on the output side of the Pure Power unit is not tied to neutral but ‘floats’, the pd neutral to earth being less than the pd live to earth. I am strongly disinclined to run any filters on the secondary side of the isolation transformer. I plugged the ElectroClear into a vacant socket on the ring, adjacent to the socket from which I run the Pure Power unit. I would follow the advice offered by others some time ago on the asylum to allow at least 24 hours of operation of the ElectroClear before judging the efficacy of the ElectroClear in situ. I have found clear benefit from use. Not so much in, say, the elimination of mechanical noise of equipment, though one item employed in my system has benefited slightly to that effect, but more in the ‘sound’. Without overstating the changes in the sound, I would say, in accord with some of the claims on the manufacturer’s web site, the benefits effected include improved instrument timbre, particularly for woodwind, and simply the sense that reproduction is more musical, more like the experience of music making in the hall or auditorium. I cannot say if moving the unit about the sockets in the room, or indeed, outside of the room, will produce the effect mentioned by Tuckers — though I am mindful of his earlier comments on this board apropos the unit which I considered when deciding to purchase the ElectroClear — but would be inclined to experiment with placement as he suggests. I am considering, however, purchase of a second unit to ascertain the effect of use of said.
I wouldn't plug anything directly into the QRT, the sound sucks. But just plug in the QRT into the same bank of outlets your system is on.It's effect is reduced as you move it to outlets farther from your system. So you can tune it by finding the outlet that most appeals to you. I find it too strong plugged directly into my audio power circuit.
Not advised....the Hammond choke kicks it's a**....
Thanks Alan. Just to be sure I understand correctly, you are saying that I should use the Hammond rather than the QRT's because it will make a bigger improvement (and does this imply that the QRT does in fact make some benefit?), or are you saying that the use of the choke will destroy the QRT if I plug it in?
Sorry for the dumb question, but I just want to be sure, since I already bought the QRT and it should arrive in a day or two.
Chris
ChrisI understand...a few months ago I invested in a couple Quantum Pro's....I was never really satisfied with the effect. It was when used by itself, but I wasn't happy when used with the choke. So I started experimenting with out items, including the Bybee large Quantum Purifiers. After I added the Bybee the QRT unit went nuts...the harmonics in the upper mids were god awful...so the Pro is not filtering the computer in my daughters classroom (home school)...the other Pro is filtering her stereo. I stayed with the Bybee's because I laid out almost $900...so I'm making them work.
Please understand what I'm trying to say...I'm not telling you to throw away your QRT's or AP's...what I'm trying to explain to you is one is not going to do it. In order to filter using a different method, assuming the choke knock your socks off, you would have to use multiple parallel units to drop the circuit frequency (magnetic build up in the house wiring) in order to match the choke pre-tuned output. If you don't do that, all you are adding is odd harmonics via ringing...if that is the case why bother addng the choke? The choke is designed to re-tune the odd harmonics or cut them off...kinda like a notch filter...on the hot and neutral, mostly the neutral...you would be defeating the reason you added the choke in the first place.
I have Quiteline filters on the way too. I just want to know the same thing if using both Hammond choke and Quietline filter at the same time will give better effect or opposite.My friend has ElectroClear QRT. He plugs it into the power conditioner and it reduces the hum from CDP transformer. No sonic change
I opened the QRT-1 and found out that the GROUND is not connected ( floating )to the circuit. Plan to cut the ground prong but would it give sonic effect if plugged the other way ? i mean live & neutral reversed when plugged to the socket .
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