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In Reply to: Re: ...and speaking of oyaide posted by some young guy on April 2, 2007 at 18:44:09:
"why don't you take a look at my system and tell me what you think i'm doing wrong"I see U have a highly modified GTA SE-40 amp which is being fed by a modified Denon 2900. I assume it has it's own volume control as U don't have a preamp.
I also see U have employed an Isoclean 105Fll power strip but are only using one of the 4 available outlets. Either I'm missing something or U haven't listed all of the components your using in your system.
What I'm wondering is if U only have 2 components that draw electricity, why the Isoclean outlet strip? In addition, I would suggest U relocate the Isoclean from the rack to the floor and spike it thru the carpet to the floor beneath. Also insert child safety caps in the unused outlets to dampen their parasitic resonances.
U also list 3 Elrod power cords. I assume one powers the amp, the other powers the CD player and the 3rd powers the outlet strip? I am going to assume U are using one Elrod from the wall outlet to the outlet strip and then another Elrod to one of the components. That right there is most likely causing some of your problems.
If U could provide us with more system details, we just might be able to solve your Oyaide dilemma :-)
Cheers,
~kenster
P.S. Very nice system. Looks to be like a musical powerhouse!
Follow Ups:
okay... yes, the apl denon has it's own digital attenuator, so i've found that i like it much more without a preamp. the isoclean is there because of the increased detail, resolution and air it ads to the system. the other purpose for the unit is that it has a filter for any digital noise. i had a modified bpt jr. in there before and the isoclean was a huge improvement.your assumption was correct; the elrod sig. 2 feeds the isoclean, which feed another elrod sig 2 that powers the player. the elrod sig. 3 is plugged in to the wall and feeds the amp.
i'll try your suggestion of moving the isoclean to the floor, but i'm wondering what i may hope to gain from this. i also happen to have a ton of the child safety plugs, so that's an easy one.
"I am going to assume U are using one Elrod from the wall outlet to the outlet strip and then another Elrod to one of the components. That right there is most likely causing some of your problems."
i'm not sure what you're getting at there.
"i'll try your suggestion of moving the isoclean to the floor, but i'm wondering what i may hope to gain from this."With the Isoclean sitting on a shelf of your rack, it is going to modulated by the vibrations that are imparted on the shelf.
I am going to assume U have a cement floor under the carpet and if so, excellent. Make sure the Isoclean has firm contact via all 4 spikes thru to the cement floor. It should feel "solid" without any rocking motion and U may want to add additional weight to the top of the unit.
A little trick I use is to punch a hole in the carpet/padding with a phillips screw driver where the spikes will penetrate. This makes firm contact ALOT easier.....just don't do it when your significant other is around!!
"i'm not sure what you're getting at there."
Anytime there is a connection made via plugs/outlets, resolution is lost no matter how good the plugs/outlets are and with the Isoclean on the rack shelf, alot of resolution is being lost due to the observation sited above.
Try those tweaks and report back.
Cheers,
so i'm in there putting some safety plugs in and it occurs to me (for some reason) to look at the tubes in my amp... one of the drivers is "spotting" on top. so i shut everything down, replaced the tube with a fresh vt-231 and voila! the sound stage is back, the bass has returned and i have all the resolution i was looking for in the first place! it would appear that i've been the victim of an odd coincidence? i'm not sure how everything can be fine, then when i unplug it all, replace the receptacle and turn it all back on, one tube goes south, but that would appear to be the case.so, i'll apologize if i've wasted anyone’s time, thank all who responded, continue to implement kenster's tweek ideas and try to hold my ever so slightly embarrassed head up.
It's been a thoughtful thread so no worries, IMO. I'm glad you found the solution since I figured the original SWO-XXX and likely the Ultimo version should do fine with your Elrod's Furutech FI-15M(G) AC plug. If you now find the SWO-XXX Ultimo to be more satisfactory, but still pine for the Furutech FP-15A(Cu) AC outlet's more organic gestalt, ask Lee at CryoParts if he will do a return exchange for the new Oyaide R1 platinum + palladium, beryllium copper AC outlet. The R1 sounds like an FP-15A(Cu) mated with an SWO-XXX who then gave birth to a friggin GIANT :-)BTW, the R1 is *very* worthy of being mounted on an Oyaide WPC-Z aluminum bracket/carbon fiber faceplate system if you can afford it.
well duster, it's crazy: the xxx ultimo has now transformed my system and my system was no slouch before. i'm doing the whole "listening to all my old recordings again" thing and i now think my system is even better than i thought it was. i'll be picking up the wpc-xxx from lee in the next week or so. he was really great about this whole thing from the get-go, letting me burn it in for months with the promise of allowing me to return it if i wasn't happy with it. he's a top notch guy, who is good on his word.
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