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It looks like Timbernation is now offering air dried maple!http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?accsrack&1171680029
i've been listening to both their kiln dried boards and 2 - 4" thick mapleshade boards...the air dried MS wood sounds amazing.
i like TN boards since they don't warp...air dried TN might be the best thing going.
Does anyone know of other suppliers??
Just by looking at the picture, the air dried TN plat has much more color to the wood verus their standard and Tiger maple plats. It isn't the 'boring pale of commercially dried wood' that Dr. Sprey mentions.
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If anyone has or wants to make their own acoustic guitar, I have read that air-dried Adirondack Red Spruce is the most musical wood to use.
I do hope to make my own guitars some day, probably as soon as I can get out of my current vocation, ie retire.I'm not coming down on you sherod, but "most musical" in guitar land is like saying "most musical" in high-end audio land. Adirondack spruce (as are various other spruce, cedar and mahogany) is a very popular wood for acoustic guitar tops. I just want to point out that choosing tonewoods for guitars is not unlike choosing a preamp or cables for your audio. Different choices in tonewood (various types of spruce, mahogany, sapele, ovangkol, rosewood, maple etc) are selected to produce different ranges of tonal resonances, overtones, or harmonic qualities that accommodate different styles of play (strumming, fingerpicking, flatpicking, etc) or simply what sounds good to the player. For example, many prefer Mahogany backs to Rosewood for a "warmer" sound. Those that prefer Rosewood backs like a boomy, more bass dominant sound. Of course the beauty of the wood is a factor as well. No best or most musical, just preferences.
Ken
Thank you, Mcgruder, for the clarification. Your explanation makes perfect sense.
"i've been listening to . . . boards "OK, I know what you mean, but you've got to admit it does sound a little strange when put like that.
Your query caused me to Google on "maple" and "air dried." The first hit on the list was Gilmer Wood Company .My God! These guys got WOOD!
I went through all nine of their Newest Unique Boards pages.
I'm still mopping up.
se
hit the link and scroll down a few pages, amazing stuff. the funky 1 piece bass is wild. (below the spoon)'listening to wood' is kinda weird, no doubt about it.
i just removed a maple platform that was under my phono pre & psu for a few weeks & stuck it under a spiked power strip (bpt ppc). the strip's been sittin' on a painted plywood thru-wall hvac cover for nearly a year. the change is to my liking, music is richer and more 3-D, which is typical for this shit. i may even suspend this contraption with Isoblocks.
as a compromise i've placed never used lp's (the vinyl and cardboard jacket, no plastic outer sleeve) under the ci audio vpp-1 phono pre & its psu. this sounds great! anyone try this? its like the shackles have been removed. the most important of the LP 'mats' is under the psu of the vpp-1. i chose "Legacy of Brutality' by the Misfits for this, and honestly its the best the LP has sounded :)
i've been looking for a simple & cheap material to set inbetween gear and mdf shelving material - which led me into maple.
the mdf shelves on my lovan classic rack are toxic sounding. a few lp's under my XBOX & cable TV box seem to sound great also.
matt
these guys are good...
Yeah, I saw that. I like how he incorporated some of the sap wood into the ends. Great photography too.se
Here's the spoon carver's web site. Take a look at the museums that exhibit them!
nt
those site's are fantastic.
I doubt I'd have come across it if it hadn't been for your query.se
nt
Air Drying or Kiln drying will have no effect what so ever on the color or pattern showing int he wood. It only depends on the piece of wood being dried. Some woods Like Lignum Vita do oxidize in air but this would happen no matter how it was dried since it is the exposure to air that would oxidize the wood.
I would suggest a search for wood suppliers. Specify air dried maple and you should be able to locate exactly what you want. You can be sure there is a much broader selection of maple size, and species than you will find in an audiophile venue. If you feel you must pay the audiophile markup - you may choose another option.
wood suppliers laugh when i've inquired previously...they claim you must know an ahmish woodworker or someone really serious about wood to find planks that have been drying a few years.here in the midwest its almost nonexistent in anything but craft stock, at least that i've been able to find.
What is air dried?Eight quarter maple can take eight years to air dry. Now, on the other hand, anything in a lumber yard is "air drying."
That's a good question! even kiln dried wood is dried with hot air, right?anyways, Mapleshade Records and maybe other mfgrs, are claiming that certain types of tonewoods (Maple mainly) sound their best when they are carefully air dried for several years versus drying in a commercial lumber kiln, which uses heat to extract the H20. mapleshade employs the Ahmish for this.
I have no clue why air dried is better, but i've been playing with 2 air dried boards against 3 kiln dried ones, all maple. The air dried is the Michael Jordan of tonewood whereas the kiln dried is Charles Barkley. Both are great players, one has lots of championship rings though.
Read mapleshade's hyperbole at www.mapleshaderecords.com
the nice mapleshade air dried boards cost over $250 each whereas the timbernation kiln dried are 1/2 that or less....
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