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In Reply to: Built-quality: GIK vs Realtraps vs Echobuster posted by WBWB on February 10, 2007 at 21:18:27:
Build quality in bass traps is more important than people tend to think for a bass trap to work properly.While the products U mention will certainly be a VERY good step in tackling room acoustic issues, ASC builds the most comprehensive bass traps and their ROI is second to none.
Yes, ASC products are spendy BUT they are spendy for a reason, they are a solid product and work extremely well :-)
JMHO of course,
~kenster
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Hi Kenster,
Thanks for your suggestion.
How is your set up with ASC product placement, room size, problem areas, etc?
Appreciate your sharing of experience!
Cheers, mate!
...I also use ASC Tube Traps in my room and was fortunate enough to buy some used ones from ASC in a larger dimension (20") than they usually make - they were custom made for someone to use in a room at the CES.ASC also will provide you with consultation on your room treatment and provide you with some suggestions for treating your room.
Besides the normal bass reinforcement and cancellation - even in my room which is close to Golden Ratio dimensions (1.6 to 1) - I have a 30Hz standing wave at the front of the room and a suckout at the listening position.
This treatment seemed to remedy that problem.
.....these R of the main listening room. Enjoy :-)Cheers,
~kenster
Howdy
I'm not Kenster but I got 10 16" ASC superbase traps second hand for my room and I was amazed at the difference even before moving them into position. I had no idea that I had so much bass overhang in my room :)Besides the positions mentioned on their site ( http://www.asc-hifi.com/tube-trap-userguide.htm and http://www.asc-hifi.com/tube-trap-setups.htm ) here are my random thoughts for my room:
I have an asymmetry in my room in that behind the left speaker I have a hallway and beside the right speaker I have a window. I put three of the traps behind the right speaker in an attempt to simulate the hallway. I also have a beanbag to the right of the listening position and the bass was way too loud there, so I put a trap on each side of it.
We have a silly old filing cabinet in the right rear corner of the room so I put a trap right next to it in an attempt to keep it from rattling (I've never heard it, but what the heck...)
While I was moving them around the old owner asked me if I was leaving one just behind the listening position on purpose. He said that he found it advantageous to do so so since I had no better idea I did that too.
I haven't really moved them around much to see if my ad hoc ideas were right, but the room sounds a heck of a lot better.
I was going to suggest viewing my picture gallery, but I notice that I only have one picture that shows a hint of a bass trap, perhaps I'll add one when I find the camera :)
-Ted
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