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Hi,
I have 2 pcs of echobusters at home and I know fairly well how these things are made; especially on the fold-backs of the front fabric, the stapled backing and the hooks provided.I've heard the GIK is quite "DIY-ish", but I have never seem them in real life. How does it compare with the Echobuster in terms of built?
Also, I think Realtraps are more "heavy-duty" as they are built more robust, but is it worth the extra in the finish?
I have a small 10' x 18' x 8' listening room. I am the only one using this room, so aesthetics could be compromised as long as these panels work!
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and the GIK meet my standards well enough. They are not DIY as far as I'm concerned. The finish on the back could be a tad more polished, but that's almost splitting hairs. A person could always fix that themselves, should that prove troublesome. If you listen by yourself, they will be great. I have the triangular bass traps and side panels. One of the great audio bargains in my book. I spent less than $500 and it was like a major equipment upgrade.My room is almost exactly the same size as yours: 13 x 19 x 8.
And GIK is wonderful to work with. Call them and ask some questions.
As far as I'm concerned, you cannot go wrong with GIK. Why spend more? How do you know the others aren't overpriced? Because they say so? The GIK products work. I was skeptical but now am completely sold. Can you tell? Think of all the extra music you could buy. Sorry, but I'm a big fan of manufacturers who give outstanding value for the money. GIK is a model of that. And no, they are not relatives.
Good luck.
Hi,
Just like to know the amount of panels and placement since our room size is similar.
Thanks!
There are two Tri-Traps in the corner of my room for bass absorption. They were gotten for the aesthetics, since the living room is the listening room. Otherwise, I'd have gotten the Monster Bass Trap, which is supposed to be just a tad better and the same price. They said the Tri-Traps were developed for WAF reasons.A pair of the 242 panels are at the first reflection point, one on each side.
I got the 242 panels first and stuck them in the corners. Corner treatments made the biggest difference in my room, so you might want to start by getting a pair of 242s or 244s and playing around.
The 242s sounded so good in the corners I was a little hesitant not to order another pair. But they told me that the bass traps would be even better, although they were perfectly happy to ship me another pair of the less expensive 242s. How's that for not being money-grubbing and serving the customer?
By the way, they offer a money-back guarantee, although nobody had taken them up on it when I got mine last year. After the panels got in place, the thought never entered my mind.
Now they offer 6 stock colors. That's great. Last year they only offered white or black, although even now I'd still take white.
If you decide to get some, let me know what you think. I'm interested in other people's experience. Are they a fabulous bargain for other people? Inquiring ears want to know.
I will definitely consider them favourably. If I do, I will get:
9 pcs of 242 and 4 pcs of Tri, even tho' our room are similar sized.I live in Asia, so the shipping cost is as much as the products itself.
> I've heard the GIK is quite "DIY-ish", but I have never seem them in real life. How does it compare with the Echobuster in terms of built? Also, I think Realtraps are more "heavy-duty" as they are built more robust, but is it worth the extra in the finish? <I hope nobody will mind if I chime in briefly. :-> )
Build quality is important to some people, and so is fit and finish. Others don't care at all. But there's more to a good acoustic product than just appearance. How well it works is probably your main concern, and I promise you all "bass traps" are not equally effective. Ease and versatility of mounting is another factor, and maybe durability too unless you don't care if something sags over time and gets lumpy etc.
Even more important is the level of advice you can get from a vendor. I don't consider room acoustics to be as complicated as many people seem to, but more people need advice with bass traps and absorbers and diffusors than for preamps and CD players. Just as acoustic products vary greatly among brands, so does the quality of technical advice you can get.
Build quality in bass traps is more important than people tend to think for a bass trap to work properly.While the products U mention will certainly be a VERY good step in tackling room acoustic issues, ASC builds the most comprehensive bass traps and their ROI is second to none.
Yes, ASC products are spendy BUT they are spendy for a reason, they are a solid product and work extremely well :-)
JMHO of course,
~kenster
Hi Kenster,
Thanks for your suggestion.
How is your set up with ASC product placement, room size, problem areas, etc?
Appreciate your sharing of experience!
Cheers, mate!
...I also use ASC Tube Traps in my room and was fortunate enough to buy some used ones from ASC in a larger dimension (20") than they usually make - they were custom made for someone to use in a room at the CES.ASC also will provide you with consultation on your room treatment and provide you with some suggestions for treating your room.
Besides the normal bass reinforcement and cancellation - even in my room which is close to Golden Ratio dimensions (1.6 to 1) - I have a 30Hz standing wave at the front of the room and a suckout at the listening position.
This treatment seemed to remedy that problem.
.....these R of the main listening room. Enjoy :-)Cheers,
~kenster
Howdy
I'm not Kenster but I got 10 16" ASC superbase traps second hand for my room and I was amazed at the difference even before moving them into position. I had no idea that I had so much bass overhang in my room :)Besides the positions mentioned on their site ( http://www.asc-hifi.com/tube-trap-userguide.htm and http://www.asc-hifi.com/tube-trap-setups.htm ) here are my random thoughts for my room:
I have an asymmetry in my room in that behind the left speaker I have a hallway and beside the right speaker I have a window. I put three of the traps behind the right speaker in an attempt to simulate the hallway. I also have a beanbag to the right of the listening position and the bass was way too loud there, so I put a trap on each side of it.
We have a silly old filing cabinet in the right rear corner of the room so I put a trap right next to it in an attempt to keep it from rattling (I've never heard it, but what the heck...)
While I was moving them around the old owner asked me if I was leaving one just behind the listening position on purpose. He said that he found it advantageous to do so so since I had no better idea I did that too.
I haven't really moved them around much to see if my ad hoc ideas were right, but the room sounds a heck of a lot better.
I was going to suggest viewing my picture gallery, but I notice that I only have one picture that shows a hint of a bass trap, perhaps I'll add one when I find the camera :)
-Ted
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