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In Reply to: rogue, manley, vtl, bat, arc??? posted by jimgrocecfp@hotmail.com on March 18, 2007 at 13:47:08:
rogue is a very good value. The others not that much better, but worse value.rogue also has relatively low impedance outputs, which you will need to drive your Totems.
Good Luck: also if you could tolerate kits, or maybe built up is to get an upgraded dynaco st-70, and then a good simple tube preamp. This probably has even more value, but is not an integrated, and doesn't possess especially good WAF. You also didn't say whether you listened to vinyl or CD, and how much power you needed.
However the dynaco stuff upgraded is very good, and if you where/are a guitar player, then the vintage/sound match is good.
Follow Ups:
I have Rogue M99 and M150's driving my Maggie 3.6R's and they do a great job.
Unbeatable value and service from those guys.
Jerry
your 150's?Do you have enough power? what types of music do you listen to?
I upgraded my magnum 120's to M-150's and also have a magnum 99...using 1.6's right know, but am Seriously thinking about getting the 3.6's, even after a less than stellar listening session recently.
I'm mainly worried that I will not have enough power, as I STILL feel I need more power to run my 1.6's (though I listen to music louder than the aveage person...I'm sure of that!), though I must say the are a great improvement over the mag-120's!.
Great products + I don't think you can get better support from any other 'Hi Fi' company, as I'm sure you know.
Jon
Hi Jon,
Sorry, I didn't see this post for a few days here. I use the M150's with Speltz Autoformers on their 3x setting so that the 3.6's look like a 12 ohm load (vs. a 4 ohm load) to the amps. I then run 'em off the 8 ohm taps and get a great sound. I listen to just about everything from acoustic to jazz to classical, some rock... no rap or metal. I typically listen at or below 80-85 db (peak) so I'm not a real volume cranker. In this setting, and in my room, I have great sound. How much volume you feel you need and the room acoustics (live vs. subdued) may have impact in how it works for you. However, I think you can extrapolate from your experience with the 1.6's; the 3's are definitely more of a load.
Hope this helps,
Jerry
Thanx Jerry.
I do listen at louder levels, but have been able to back off a bit after an ear infection (in which I got my ears cleaned...unbelievable how much better my hearing is now). I have no regular doctor, but will take much better care of my ears from now on.
Fortunately I see a pair of 3.6's in the very soon future (still deciding on the oak/offwhite or the cherry/offwhite...the cherry being $300 extra).
Ah yes, and the gods will soon be gracing me w/ a Zeus! So I doubt I'll ever have to worry about power again.
I like the idea of the autoformers-I haven't heard of that brand, but I'll check 'em out.
BTW I listen to new and old school jazz, wide range of classical, classic rock,new and old funk, metal, industrial/techno, and some rap (though rarely on my maggies!)
I'm sold on Rogue and will get the monos as soon as I unload some of my amps. Rogue is just as good as the others or at least very close. It will hold it's value. Rogue will be a leader for years to come.
And when you call up with a question or need help, they'll take the call like you are an old friend and treat you like gold.
I'm not saying the others are bad in any way or do not take calls, etc. But have you compared the prices?
Two months ago Rogue to me was just another obscure brand. Now I'm their biggest fan!
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