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In Reply to: 48 hours is a long time posted by nightdoggy on February 24, 2007 at 20:19:05:
"Get rid of the Pro Gold. I had lots of problems with it."Of course you will. Look at the temperature ratings of that (now superseded) product. The current "low temp" product is good for 240 C (about 470 F), but the old Pro Gold wasn't. The Gold GXL he's using is good to 310 C (about 590 F).
"Now I use an extremely thin film of Mobil 1 0W-30. Nothing protects metals better ($6.00 qt.) and it can take the heat, unlike any of the Caig products, which are expensive too."
DeOxit D-5 works very well, and it is good to 200 C (about 400F). If you want to use the synthetic oil go ahead - but to say the Caig products can't take the heat is incorrect. The RIGHT Caig product takes the heat very well. I've used D5 on THOUSANDS of tubes. No trouble.
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Nor would I. I know about the newer higher rated version. The problem with it and De-oxit is their long term stability. I would never use either on anything. They are both a rip off.
I'll bet you $1,000 right here that Mobil 1 is chemically superior to either in every known way. That's right. We are talking about metal protection, not forming varnish, which D5 is well proven to do over time. G5 reacts with certain alloys/base metals. Some people like the green color though. I'm getting the feeling you spend more on contact potions than protection for your engine!
Tube pins do not need corrosion protection. In 40 years I have never seen a corroded tube pin. Who would use one if it was corroded anyway?
What they do benfit from is lubrication. High insertion forces can lead to premature failure of printed circuit board traces/pads and sockets. Put 2 drips on a Q-tip, let it soak in and then lightly brush the pins with it. I do not always do this because I'm too lazy, but I should.
I do clean and polish certain jacks/connectors with Mobil 1 and have for years. I went back to it after suffering expensive damage from both D5 and G5.
Use what you want. I don't care. Just trying to save others the grief I experienced.
If it will protect multi-million dollar race engines made from exotic alloys operating at extreme temperature and stress, it will surely protect your precious connectors.
I added the last part to help you understand.
Disclaimer: I do not work for Mobil, but I once did.
"The problem with it and De-oxit is their long term stability. I would never use either on anything. They are both a rip off."Bull. I've (and many others) used it for years on thousands of applications and I've NEVER had any trouble. A rip off? I think not. One can of DeOxit will last months, the cost per application is VERY small.
"G5 reacts with certain alloys/base metals."
Prove it. I don't believe you. Nor do many of the large companies that use it in industrial applications.
"Some people like the green color though. I'm getting the feeling you spend more on contact potions than protection for your engine!"
You remind me of the guy here years ago that insisted DeOxit dissolved the glass tube seals around the pins.
"Tube pins do not need corrosion protection."
BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!! You MUST be joking, right, and I didn't get the joke. There is no way you can be serious, no way!
"In 40 years I have never seen a corroded tube pin."
You CAN'T be serious. You can't expect anyone who works with tubes to believe that statement. Why don't you come over right now and look at the 100's of corroded pins on the NOS tubes I haven't cleaned yet - many new in the original boxes.
Why do you suppose people are posting in this thread?
"Who would use one if it was corroded anyway?"
Right - if there's some green corrosion on that NOS Mullard long plate I always just toss them in the trash.
"I went back to it after suffering expensive damage from both D5 and G5."
Prove it! Did you report it to Caig? Did you file a claim with them for the damage? Did you ask them to reimburse you for your loss?
You make a lot of wild claims, you don't substantiate them, you say you've never seen a corroded tube pin (??) - and you expect us to believe it?
"If it will protect multi-million dollar race engines made from exotic alloys operating at extreme temperature and stress, it will surely protect your precious connectors."
Oh, right. The applications are so similar. Why don't you use an anti-seize compound, it has even higher EP lubricant properties. Just dip the pins in some nice Permatex silver Anti-Seize compound, it'll work great.
BTW, I thought the purpose of a lubricant was to PREVENT metal to metal contact - if that's true (and I think it is) why would you use a product designed to eliminate the very contact that you need? I'll wait for my answer...
"I added the last part to help you understand."
Ahh, the mark of a true believer - the parting shot!
"Disclaimer: I do not work for Mobil, but I once did."
And what did you say to people who claimed Mobil 1 leaked out of their engines when conventional oils didn't? It's true, Mobil 1 made your engine blow up. I know, 'cause I knew a guy whose best friend's brother heard about it from his uncle's next-door neighbor...
Geez...
Jim McShane
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...if you want high temp stability and chemical inertness the logical choice is Krytox.
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