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• Give your money to China if you want - RFGumby 16:05:50 02/06/07 (6)
  In Reply to: Those Cayins have some mighty pretty metal work & a nice machined remote... posted by David S. on February 6, 2007 at 14:53:11:

  I choose not to. I'd rather support current manufacturers
  from the States or somewhere less insidious like England or some
  of the beautiful products coming out of Italy.

  Citations for example are how privateers like Jim McShane
  can make a living or support a hobby. Micheal Elliot of Alta Vista
  is another person who's chosen to deal with equipment not made anymore.
  I'd rather rebuild or buy parts from someone like
  those fellows and support folks in the hobby on a less international level.

  I think while us Americans worry about remotes, we not only miss
  the target on sound quality, I think we miss the boat on wisdom as well.
  I love beautiful casework as much as anyone, I'd just rather
  Bob from around the corner gets the profits.

  RFG
  
  

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  • I kept my money in the USA - David S. 10:17:22 02/07/07 (1)
    In Reply to: Give your money to China if you want posted by RFGumby on February 6, 2007 at 16:05:50:

    Other than my Sony SCD-777es, my main system has a preamp made in California (VTL Ultimate), an amp made made in California (Innersound/Coda), and speakers made in Utah (Soundlab Pristine IIs) or in Maryland (Apogee Stage). Will admit my Gallo Nuc Ref 3s were built in China...but for an American company.

    
    
    

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    • That's cool - Rfgumby 11:20:00 02/07/07 (0)
      In Reply to: I kept my money in the USA posted by David S. on February 7, 2007 at 10:17:22:

      I didn't mean to imply any different. Nice gear!

      
      RFG
      
      

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  • Me to Gumby! - Michael Samra 16:46:27 02/06/07 (3)
    In Reply to: Give your money to China if you want posted by RFGumby on February 6, 2007 at 16:05:50:

    We live in the good ole US Of A and it should just floor people that buy asian cars and asian electronics,how much asians are willing to pay for our 100% american made audio gear or amateur radio receivers like collins or hallicrafters.
    I think they laugh at many of our buying choices all the way to the bank and think what dummies we are to have such nice well mastered equipment like macs or citations or marantzs and then sucuum to buying the crap many of us do.Give me vintage any ole time.
    
    

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    • Me three Gumby (or am I still 1?) - RFGumby 17:14:28 02/06/07 (2)
      In Reply to: Me to Gumby! posted by Michael Samra on February 6, 2007 at 16:46:27:

      I almost asked the webmaster to pull that post, thinking
      it wasn't in the spirit of the topic.

      One of the reasons I love the High End, even the Bleeding edge
      is that I can still buy American gear. I still adore lust after and
      appreciate gear from everywhere (how could you not appreciate an
      Ongaku for example). However, I like that one of my pairs of speakers (Magnepans)are made 45 minutes away. One of my preamps
      is made 10 minutes from my house at ARC. One of my sets of OTL amps-
      30 minutes away. They, like the very best companies audio has to offer, will talk to you on the phone or let you stop by and say "hi".
      That means a lot to me.

      I really don't mean to belittle or offend, it's just my personal choice. My wife found some fleece pullovers to buy me for Christmas
      that were made in the US. Not a big deal, but it sure meant a lot to
      me that at least she thought about it when shopping. Along that vein, my rather opulent choice of owning Hi End helped pay my own state taxes- Bob from down the road may have machined that fancy remote. Let's see, some of my cables may have helped pay for George Cardas' new boat!

      The music is what really matters, if a Jolida is your cup of tea,
      ENJOY! Maybe you can buy some tubes from McShane...

      RFG
      
      

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      • Re: Me three Gumby (or am I still 1?) - Michael Samra 23:39:18 02/06/07 (1)
        In Reply to: Me three Gumby (or am I still 1?) posted by RFGumby on February 6, 2007 at 17:14:28:

        Gumby
        I guess we can thank the chinese and russians tho for resurrecting our vintage tube audio hobby.Think about what we would have to pay if it werent for the chinese building a nice kt88 and a 6L6gc and many of the nice gold connector jacks and tube sockets we use to rebuild our amps with..I would hate to think how much everyone would be fighting on ebay to get that last pair of used up mullard el34s with burnt flashing for 300 dollars lol.Thank god for our friends in the orient and in the former baltic states and ussr.
        
        

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        • Agreed - RFGumby 05:36:13 02/07/07 (0)
          In Reply to: Re: Me three Gumby (or am I still 1?) posted by Michael Samra on February 6, 2007 at 23:39:18:

          If the Soviets and Chinese hadn't spooled up production for
          vacuum stste devices, we wouldn't likely be having this discussion
          because the vintage stuff would be prohibitively expensive to
          repair and maintain. High voltage caps would have ceased production
          almost altogether and the old gear would be akin to restoring Victrolas (although those too are cool).

          I suppose we could thank guitar players and companies like ARC/CJ
          as well for not letting the flame burn out and providing fiscal reasons for the new tube manufacturers to spool up new production.

          RFG
          
          

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