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In Reply to: Re: Amperex KT88 on Ebay posted by Jim McShane on December 10, 2006 at 10:41:11:
Even mullard did that on their EL34s of the latter part and we all know Mitsubishi made them and these were with the crease in the top.They still said made in GT Britain.
My take is I wonder if the glass maybe was made in GT. Britain or being they were concluding production of tubes,they didnt worry much about country of manufacture or getting sued?
Then again sometimes it may just say Gt.Britain and not made in GT. Britain.
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1970s "country of origin" laws were lax to say the least. Less than 20% of the total manufacturing costs as related to the final retail sale price(often less; some countries accepted single digit figures!) were necessary for calling a Japanese (or whatever) tube "GT. Britain". Just labeling, doing QC, finishing the solder on the pins, boxing, packing etc etc was MORE than enough to say Great Britain. Also, Matsushita OWNED Mullard and hence had their foot in the door, so to speak, to have free reign on labeling mande in Britain. This was not new, and has actually gotten worse. Take a look at virtually any "American" car and you'll have your answer. Saturns vehicles and other GM, (Chevy Malibu in particular) have Chinese drivetrains, and MOSTLY outsourced parts. But they are made in America! Then you have the made in USA Hondas, etc... it cuts both ways...
Say what? Matsushita didn't own Mullard. Philips owned Mullard. Matsushita wasn't owned by Philips either, despite rumors of that.Another internet myth is that Matsushita took the Mullard Blackburn tooling after they shut down making EL34's. Baloney. At some point, Matsushita contracted with Philips to get tooling that was the same that Mullard was using at Blackburn, but this was done while Mullard was making EL34's. Matsushita's did start being made in 1981 after Mullard shut down making EL34's. Matsu's go back to the 70's and into the 60's.
Matsushita has contractual agreements with Philips......but they didn't own them and vice versa.
Of COURSE Mullard was Philips owned...for 50 years or so. I guess PERHAPS I am mistaken in thinking that they purchased Mullard ca. 1968, but I have read it, and heard it for 20 years now, mainly from old timers who wouldn't know the internet from a television.. so if untrue it must be the most widely believed myth in history. But--- this is a detail that I have no emotion invested in (i.e. I may be wrong, I may be right; I don't care...:0)Likely YOU are correct and for the correction I thank you.
Typo, meant to say:"Matsushita's didn't start being made in 1981 when Mullard shut down making EL34's.
Here Ya GO! While the 1954 date of when Matsushita began metalbase production is questionable, scroll down to the first picture of black base Matsushita EL34. Made in 1961. Interesting history of a mythical tube!
- http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://radiomann.hp.infoseek.co.jp/HomePageVT/Audio_EU_Pentode.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search?q=Japan+6CA7&start=30&hl=en&lr=&sa=N (Open in New Window)
I'm not sure what you are saying here, but I have Matsushita EL34s dating back to the 1960s. They even made metal base EL34s under license. THIS IS FACT; a bit of research should clear this up for you. Just google "Japanese EL34" and "Japanese 6CA7" and you will find a detailed history of Matsushita, Toshiba, and Hitachi; this will clarify this issue greatly for you. While I may not care/know for sure if Matsushita ever owned owned Mullard, because I don't have hard evidence, this kind of misinformation about 1981 dates etc. is starting ANOTHER myth and needs correction.
Easy Tiger. LOL. Press the Rewind button and hit Play again. This time listen to what I actually said (including the typo correction) rather than what you wanted me to say.
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Further, Matsushita OWNED Mullard at the time so the notion of Matsushita "worrying about being sued" is a non-issue/impossibility. Who would sue? Matsushita more than met the country of origin laws by having the aforementioned "finishing" tasks done in the UK so Britain's version of the FTC couldn't sue.. and Parent companies don't really get sued by their "children" too often :0)
Just a guess - a rebrander cannot be sued if he smartly changes a letter in the name - e.g. SiemAns or WestERN Germany (GDR is also located in the West).
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