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I posted a rant a while back about the tube testing claims of this ebay seller, Tubestyle. I sent him a few messages and included some posts by the late Chris Haedt which clearly stated that the Eico 667 is NOT a mutual conductance tester. This guy still claims otherwise. The previous action featured some tubes that tested "good" and all around 80 or 82. I suggested that he should at least mention that the "good" scale on the 667 runs from 80 to 140. Now, in this auction, the tubes test at 70, which is in the ??? range and he claims they test "good". Serious scammer here - beware!
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it's easy really, how they maintain their high ratings - people who would give them bad feedback just stay away.the rest of the uninformed masses just think that they've got great deals.
Here is a picture of the EICO 667 meter. Right at the 70 mark is a big ? .IMHO the seller is passing off marginal tubes at best. The tubes in the ? will still work; however, they are well past their prime.
I always include a picture of the tube being tested with my auctions so the buyer can see for themselves.
I think a "?" clearly indicates that the tube's condition is not known-- it might be marginally good, it might not be. Perhaps the dealer is just a big time optimist.
to his latest scam.
The thing is with feedback is you cant burn them or they will burn you.I dodgy seller (and the clever ones too!) dont give feedback until the buyer does.So if he gets burnt he will burn the buyer.So yep the buyer just cuts his loses and moves on.Look for what the buyer isn't saying in his feedback.I wonder what thats guy is doing that sold handwound tranformers.He got me for 250$He burnt all the international ebayers because he new by the time they should have expected them it would be to late to leave feedback(4 to 6 weeks to ship plus a months worth of "its in the mail")
...Those tubes look toasted!Fresh tubes in good condition don't have those kind of burns on the glass like that!
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Al GTravelin' light; It's the only way to fly - J.J. Cale
Misinformed, but I would not believe auction is an out & out scam. They use 70 as a reading, gm is a much larger number.
As I mentioned below, I've exchanged emails with this guy and he is not just misinformed. It's really pretty straightforward. If a reading of 70 is clearly in the ?? or Weak range (yellow on the meter), and he claims that the tube tests in the Good range, which starts at 80 and is Green on the meter, he is lying. Not misinformed.
Oh, I thought 50 was weak, 70 is ok.
Most people would assume 70 is good. With this tester it's not.
If any tube tested "70" on my 667, I'd figure it's ready for the wastebasket.
I appreciate the heads-up regarding scam artists. On the last several occasions when I have checked out the e-bay ads these guys run, each one has had an over 99% approval rating. What's the deal? How do crooks get rated so highly?dainty
I don't doubt that the tubes are functional and unless the buyer is familiar with the tester used they wouldn't realize they were being scammed. If they test the tubes on a different tester and they test in the ?? or weak zone and complain, the seller can rightly claim that results will vary when different testers are used. The truth is tube testers are only a rough indicator of a tube's condition - some give a more accurate picture that others - and the only true test is how a tube works in the circuit. But a tube that tests weak or at the very bottom of the Good range may not be functional for very much longer and if a bidder knows this he may not bid as much or not bid at all. My beef with this seller is that he KNOWS the tester does not test for mutual conductance, yet he claims that's what the results are, mutual conductance readings. And he does not disclose that on the scale of the Eico meter the minimum reading that is in the Good range is 80. If a bidder doesn't know this, a reading of 80 might sound fine, despite the fact that it is at the bottom of the Good range. When I complained before, he told me he has a mutual conductance tester but he prefers to use the Eico because the needle is more steady when he takes a reading. I suggested that since he has one he should give the test results for both testers and state what the minimum Good reading is for each tester. By not doing so he obviously is trying to take advantage of people. I don't know about other sellers but I would speculate that, as long as a tube functions, a lot of the buyers are not so well informed as to know that the tube is maybe not what the seller claims it is.
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