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In Reply to: This is why I dumped VTV (nt) posted by morinix on August 29, 2005 at 12:42:34:
I learned from sound practices. When the issues start lapsing toward a 1/2 year overdue that means the end is near. If you renew you may not see your last issue or two and your money will magically disappear. I understand about the fact that publications such as this may have info not easily found any place else, but IMO the prudent time to jump ship is soon approaching. Get the back issues you want if you don't have them, now.SP REALLY screwed a bunch of people.
Best
Robert Morin
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Just curious if you're still listening to the Modwright pre and what your impressions are with some more listening under your belt.
I know nothing about this. Maybe you have me confused with someone else?
The expression you used implies that it was a deliberate action on Joe Roberts' part. I think that's really unfair.Ask anyone who's tried to run their own small business what it's like - money bleeding away regularly and seemingly endlessly but money coming in intermittently at best. Watch your wife's reaction when you put her house on the line chasing your dream - it's not pretty.
As an indication of Joe's commitment, look at the way he put what should have been issue 17 up on the web for free.
To err is human, to moo, bovine (anon)
many people sent mony after the mag stopped and those checks were cashed and product was never shipped.THAT is really unfair.
I agree with you Robert. I paid for a SP subscription and received one or two issues before it ceased publication. Even the AUDIO CRITIC made good on subscriptions, even if it was 8 years between issues! They folded, started up again and honored the remaining issues on the old subscriptions.Gerry
I was so slow in renewing I did not get screwed. But I made copies of full magazines for people who tried to order backissues at/near the end and never saw product even though the checks got cashed. The correct thing for Joe to do would have been to return those checks.Glad at least some audio mags have honorable dealings.
I don't think so.
Like everybody else on the bleeding edge at that time, I didn't receive a couple/few issues I paid for. Big effing deal. Joe put stuff, data, viewpoints in the public view that changed the entire viewpoint of a considerable hobby. I learned more from that rag than every other publication I ever subscribed to, add 'em up, brah.Did Joe get / is Joe rich? WeDon'tThinkSo. So, how did he screw anybody? Is anybody the poorer for owning every issue of that mag? Is Joe the richer?
Add it up yourself.
Aloha,
Poinz
you should either get the product or a refund. Cut and dried. if you don't mind loosing your money, great for you. The magazine was really good but the end was not.
Turned a whole new group on to tubes and high eff. These days everybody's an expert but at that time there was very little info available and SP was the only game in town. The writing style was fun and informative with little attitude. It still wasn't enough to keep it going.
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