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Any comments? I can get them for a really sweet price...
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I am hunting down another source today. Prices are good, about
$10 a piece for anything they have. I spoke on the phone to the
guy... he says he has RCA 6SN7 (about 20 years old, he claims. Can
that be right?Is it possible that these where made in the 80's?) and Toshiba,
and probably Ken-Brown. They also have Sylvania, but not the coin
based ones. They also have GE GTB (not the coin based ones).I know it is hard to tell without pictures, but which are the better
ones?
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What's best will depend on what you like and your gear. Others cannot tell you what will work in your situation. At $10 a pop, why don't you just buy a bunch and see for yourself.
Jack
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Sooner or later, you will have to try them for yourself. Will telling you what to buy, improve the speed of the winding?
For crissakes, THEY ARE ONLY $10 A POP-BUY THEM ALL!!!! What's good now may be less good when you uprage your system.
Jack
He took 4 full days for a quote and told me he usually takes 2 weeks
to wind the stuff... I am loosing my patience...
regardless, you will still have to decide for yourself as to what 6SN7s work best for you.
Jack
It is getting frustrating to find a good pair of tubes!I will keep on looking...
Yes, those are not a very good vintage. Check out my offerings at Tubeseller.com if you are interested in a good quality pair of 6SN7's.--Bob
As was pointed out to you before, we have structures in place for
people/businesses that wish to advertise. If you again post what
appears to be another ad, anywhere outside of those structures,
you will be banned from further participation at the Asylum.
Bob, are you so desperate for sales that you need to completely disregard the very clear rules about dealer advertising with these posts (which you know will be deleted shortly anyways)?
I don't think that "Check out my offerings at Tubeseller.com if you are interested in a good quality pair of 6SN7's." is advertising, only an offer to supply this person with what he is looking for. If someone else were to promote my web site as a recommendation-- would you consider that advertising? I don't get it.
This poster did not ask "anybody know where I can get some quality 6sn7's" or "can anyone suggest tube sellers"_You_ took it upon yourself to turn his post into an attempt to create sales for your business.
These forums are not the place for you to directly attempt to gain business in response to others posts.
There is free classified advertising here - that is the appropriate place for you to advertise.
Most members will view your postings as unethical. In tubes particularly, ethics are important.
I would never recommend you for tubes and will never buy from you due to your obvious lack of ethical behaviour.
Www.tubeseller.com has got to be one of the worst possible places to buy tubes with ethics like yours.
No regards
Ken L
Thanks for your constructive comments Ken. I'm sorry that my ignorance has caused you such disdain for me and my business. It must be pretty obvious to all what an unethical jerk I am.
Hi Guys,Guess I'm too "dense and desperate" for this group. Just trying to make a living and help a fellow tube enthusiast. Sorry for offending you.
> > > I don't think that "Check out my offerings at Tubeseller.com if you are interested in a good quality pair of 6SN7's." is advertising < < <
Then you would bethe only person on the planet not to think so, but then you aren't exactly unbiased.> > > If someone else were to promote my web site as a recommendation-- would you consider that advertising? < < <
If they are not connected to you or gain from it, then no.> > > I don't get it. < < <
Are you really that dense, or are you just pretending?
Jack
As I mentioned in the other thread, just stay away from any coin-based 6SN7. Instead of experimenting with all these cheap tubes (they're cheap for a reason), get one or two pairs of recommended tubes. In the long run, you save money and the headache. If you want relatively cheap and readily available, the current batch of Electro Harmonix 6SN7s ain't half bad. They're certainly better then all the ones you've bought so far.
Perhaps you can find an old organ from the 1940s? These usually have nice vintage 6SN7s.
I don't like them, the soundstage shrank and the top and bottom got lost.
Vacuum Tube Valley did a listening shootout of 6SN7s in Issue 11 and rated them "The worst sounding 6SN7 we listened to in this test. Noisy as hell, sibilant and distorted with harsh highs. And to add insult to injury, it was very microphonic."
unfortunately, the sonic quality is directly proportional to the price. Had I not quite literally thrown away half a dozen NOS coinbase 6SN7's, I would send them to you for the cost of postage....they are pretty awful sounding.I presume you want to pay $10 for a pair of 6SN7's with a perceived street value of $100 or so...naturally..me too. The first thing you have to do is learn which 6SN7's have that high perceived value, and one of the best ways is to spend some time at Audiogon looking at the 'botique' 6SN7 vendors. They have great photos of the most desirable tubes along with descriptions and they range in price from $40 to $120 a pair. It's a great place to learn which are the most coveted, tried and true 6SN7 tubes. I would print those vendor pages or take notes for reference. Fortunately the majority of 6SN7's manufactured in the '40's, '50's and '60's of the last century sound pretty good..some are of course, outstanding.
So...after learning the good ones...how do you get them for $10 a pair? You get away from the audiophile crowd. We are the only ones who place a value of $120 on a pair of 6SN7's. You want to get in with Amateur Radio guys and if you can find some older TV repair shops (you're in Argentina?) you will be in luck...the 6SN7 was a big number in tube television. Most major urban areas will have a few ham radio types either in a loose or well organized club and those larger areas will have older TV shops...I have absolutely no doubt that Argentina has some great 6SN7's just waiting to be discovered..good luck hunting them.
..Certainly can't speak for your locale but where I'm at the hams and antique radio guys are fully aware of what audiophools will pay for the correct 6SN7 and they price accordingly. Most don't understand the 6SN7 mystique and make condescending jokes about their audiophool customers but they don't hesitate to take their money either. Just don't tell the antique guys about the old radio you bought at the flea mkt for a few $ and trashed just to get the 2A3s...
The internet has created efficient, knowledgeable markets for just about everything so the bargains are pure luck these days.
I admit to buying 110 vintage 6SN7s from a ham for $50 last month. He advertised $15 for the lot, so I just threw another $35 at that $15 to close the deal.
...that's what I'll pay for used tubes. At a recent hamfest, 100 used/untested 6SN7s of mixed brand were sold for $400 because they were in clean RCA boxes...the buyer only wanted the boxes and any good tubes was just icing on the cake. Wonder what the buyer was going to do with 100 nice RCA boxes?????????
Ahhh.. hunting tubes....I live in the middle Atlantic states..between Baltimore and Washington and during the summer months, there are a couple hamfests per month...and I try to not miss a one..Here's what I have learned.. Broad Generalizations to follow:...Most of today's hams (I still have my Gen. ticket myself) don't know very much about tubes..not nearly what tubeophiles know about them. I have asked hams who are selling tubes..boxes of tubes everywhere..
"Got any 6SN7's?"
"Oh sure.."
"Any idea which boxes?"
"What do they look like?"...that is an actual conversation last month and this ham was selling a lot of his own gear as well. My experience (for the last 4 years at hamfests) is that the folks buying the tubes, seem to know alot more about what they are buying than the sellers...and most sellers haven't a clue as to what a Sylvania 6SN7W is or what it's worth. I recently paid $10 for a Natl. Union 6SN7GT black glass that I had been hunting all year...so in desperation, I paid the $10 asking price from a guy only selling 6SN7's (odd, but he was a 6SN7 dealer catering to audiophiles)...Later, a tube/old radio dealer friend of mine nearly had a stroke that I paid so much for that tube..having himself sold me pair of Tung-Sol Black glass for $3 each...
Although most of my experiences to tell are antedotal, it is typical in this area to pay $1-$3 for used 6SN7's, sometimes tested, sometimes not. And there are always some very desireable tubes in the mix as I dig through boxes of tubes...I never come home empty-handed. It really is a Forest Gump box of choclates out there at ham-fests...One more revealing experience to tell and I'll shut up...eBay has certainly changed in terms of buying and selling tubes...Last week I posted a little over a dozen tube auctions...several of which were nice, fairly desirable pairs of 6SN7's (good tubes, but not my really really good ones)...and eBay now seems like a desert wasteland...I take good pictures (I'm a wedding photographer, but I take pretty good snaps with a little digital)...Well tested (I have calibrated Hickok TV-10D/U) and nicely described...I sold a pair of Ken-Rad 6SN7GT black glass (very strong, close to NOS) for $16.95...only one bidder. What I didn't sell was even more revealing...a pair of Sylvania 6SN7GTA (early versions) and 4 RCA 6SN7GTA sidegetters...both open at $12.95-(no reserve) went unbid on...All tested very high, were clean and I have 100% Pos feedback...my conclusion is that there are really not many buyers hanging out on eBay and the ones that do are clueless bottom-feeders looking for a miracle. I was amazed...and don't think I'll waste any more time on eBay....I think eBay is "circling the drain" as far as tubes are concerned...Thanks for the rant-time. ...Oh..and I was grinding my teeth while the above thread was going on (the $7 coin-base one).....grrrrr : > )
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