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In Reply to: Ordering new tape from Us recording.A few questions! posted by rob mac on January 2, 2007 at 23:33:51:
I think bshapiro is right. You would be better off getting everything done by a pro at least once before you try it yourself. Aside from the fact that it should be checked over every once in a while for lubrication and adjustments to compensate for head wear, you will need some equipment to do the bias correctly. Even adjusting the heads requires a dual trace scope. For bias on my Technics rs1500 you need a scope, oscillator,attenuator,vtvm and a test tape. As far as which formulation you should use, did you check out the "What tape should I use?" section over on USRM's site. If that didn't help, you should email them with your exact requirements. I'm kind of in the same boat. I want to get my machine biased for one of the new tape formulations but I'm still waiting on ATR magnetics to get their tape out. Depending on price, it's either that or the 900 I think for me.
Follow Ups:
There is a part of me that still believes that ATR is a fantastic hoax. Their "new" tapes were announced no less than 3 years ago. Initial roll out and availability dates were strung along for at least two of those years with a laundry list of excuse after excuse. Now their website has remained virtually unchanged for at least a year and none of the links (specs, products, etc) on the page even work or lead to anywhere.Some people will try and justify this indefinite delay and defend them by saying things like "they want to make sure it's perfect" and other generic responses to that effect.
-To which I reply:
"Hogwash"
If, in 3 years they couldn't perfect a century old technology emulated incalculable times by numerous other manufacturers....
...then they got no business making tape at all.
When I see ATR tape for sale, available for immediate delivery, THEN I'll believe they are on the up-and-up.
Until then. Don't hold your breath. I exhaled long long ago.
I've been saying that for almost 2 years now, getting all sorts of nasty emails from users and such accusing me of all sorts of ridiculous conspiracies etc...
I've gotten plenty of nastygrams from ATR stooges and puppets as well. Either A) They are in on the [alleged] hoax, or B) are so desperate for new tape and for whatever reason don't like the very fine quality tapes from Quantegy or buying off Ebay that they'll cling to any hope.And my response is always the same:
"Show me the tape!" "Show me some kind of proof other than a static website that for all we know is being maintained by some college kid in Sweden that something is being done in the direction of having new tape"!
Interesting and humorous posts. I mentioned to Danny a while back that we probably ought to support anyone who is crazy enough to try to get tape out these days. Perhaps that makes me one of the ATR stooges - if so, I want to be Shemp, though my hair is more like Larry's these days...What I can offer to the database is that my bro Paul has tried the ATR Magnetics tape and recently the RMGI 468 as well. He says they are both great.
ATR Magnetics won't be slitting 1/4" for a while yet. They will first make tape for markets with a reasonable volume demand - 2" and 1/2". That should give you guys some time to fume about ATR Magnetics 1/4" for a while yet, and since the RMGI tape is available now it ought to work out for everyone.
ATR still has all of the classic threads of being a hoax: The few times someone has claimed to have seen the tape, it's always been through "a friend" or a "friend of a friend". But that much more credible first-hand experience remains elusive.
I have a sample of the tape in my hand as I type this (one handed typing.)
It will probably only be marketed to the filthy rich and famous first. Just like the WE tubes. Ray
"I take you as you are
And make of you what I will,
Skunk-bear, carcajou, bloodthirsty
Non-survivor.
Lord, let me die but not die out." THE LAST WOLVERINE by James Dickey
ATR will not be making any tapes someone is taking the piss here!
No manufacturing company takes 3 years to sort out teething problems it is a lie a scandal a hoax. For what perpose I wonder only thing I can think of is that someone gets a kick out of it thinking our lives depend on a new manufacturer! GET REAL ATR are never going to be.
I guess they were right,.. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! I forgot that I mentioned ATR Magnetics a while ago and got a negative reaction then as well. I've only been waiting for about a year and I don't do that much recording with tape, at least not yet!
otherwise I'm with you 110% Doc.
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