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In Reply to: Mountains and Molehills posted by TrollWhacker on September 10, 2002 at 21:12:42:
These are 6 names that I find posts for under your IP address currently listed on the Front page in Just the General Asylum & Amp/Preamp Asylum. Mind you I did this very quickly and only checked 2 Asylums. What kind of sick game are you playing Cut-Throat, Response 34, etc., etc. ? Huh ?What kind of Hypocrite are you accusing me of using multiple names when it appears you may be using DOZENS of name? Yes, that is right, I did the same thing Cut-Throat et al did and found a veritible plethora of name listed under his IP address. Here are just a few of the Highlights:
Cut-Throat
tuneman
Response 34
Brian Cheney
Sane:De Kay
De Kay
phoenixaudionut
Anthony Machado
Chris Garrett( yes, thats what it shows)
Analog Scott
J10Scull(look for yourself)
hifitommy
Chazmo
Justin Guarini
fishmatisse 214
RAYDOG
Now, mind you, I was only about 1/5 of the way thru the list and I had already found 50 different names under that IP address. It is hard to believe some of the names but you can check easily for yourself to verify the list.Type in [ 152.163.188.5 ] in "Search", then type the same number in "Modify Search", click on "All Forums" and hit "Go". You will be amazed at the list, 971 records in all for that IP address.
Now, I don't know how he is doing all this or if he may be posting under their names somehow but the list is there for All to see. I will find out how you are doing this and what this is really all about. I guarantee you I will get to the bottom of this.
If "you play with fire, you get burned"
Now, I have never seen a bigger case of Hypocrisy in my life. Can you imagine this snake in the grass questioning my integrity when he is about as deceitful as is possible to be.Btw, you can follow the same prodedure for me. You will find a total of 105 posts, 102 of them under MEP, 2 under MIKE and 1 under Pem. Mike is my real name and MEP are my initials. So, who is being deceitful here, you tell me.
As for the rest of your accusations, you no longer have a shred of credibility so I won't even respond.
Follow Ups:
Your ignorance of how the internet works is even greater than your ignorance of audio technology, if such a thing is possible.Large ISPs like AOL and Earthlink assign servers on a "dynamic" or "as needed" basis. The fact that various messages came from the same IP address tells you NOTHING about who sent them. Truth is you DON'T KNOW who sent any message, including the first two you've been carping about. RodM tried to explain this, but of course you paid no attention.
At this point you've spent close to a full day of your life posting lengthy hysterical rants about two tiny messages that didn't even attack you or threaten you in any way. Anyone who bothers to read your various postings, including this latest batch, will come to the conclusion that you are ignorant, arrogant, rude, misinformed, self-centered and boring. You apparently have nothing better to do than to attack distinguished audio reviewers like John Marks, while contributing nothing of value or interest yourself.
Here's the scoop in in a nutshell, Mikey. Nobody on this board likes you, respects you, or gives a rat's ass about your petty problems. You are a pathectic, delusional little troll --probably a pimply 16-year-old with nothing to do but stir up trouble between bouts of whacking off.
If you are so adamant about what you say then use your name. I know it is easier to insult and denigrate someone when remaining anomymous but don't be such a coward.
I have never seen a group of supposedly professional people who act so unprofessional, hiding behind contrived names, hurling insults and making condescending remarks. You don't know everything, in fact you don't even know how to act civil.It is no wonder more industry professionals don't care to participate in AA with the likes of you around. Think about it, would you want to have anything to do with a Board & organization that goes out of its way to insult members? You are a laughingstock amongst many industry professionals,that is, the people who run this place, not the members as such. Unfortunately, you can't have one without the other.
You are wrong in asserting that IP numbers have no validity. Some of what you claim may be true but you are overstating the case about this and it is foolish to assert that IP numbers are in effect meaningless.They can reveal a great deal. Anyone who knows the first thing about the internet would say you are groundless.
As for the personal remarks, think what you want. I am saving the posts from you and Bored members and we will see who has the last laugh. If you had any guts you would not hide behind an anonymous name
Btw, I type fast and have only spent a minimum amount of time on this. You and the other members on the other hand, have spent a considerable amount of collective time trying to discredit me much to your ultimate shame when you are exposed. I know plenty of people in the industry and they will be glad to view your Rantings.
If you had an ounce of sense you would have left this alone or at least made a token attempt to reconcile the matter. Instead, you who had no time or inclination, have spent a great deal of time trying to besmirch my integrity and reputation while only succeeding in tarnishing your already sullied reputation. This will only come back to haunt you. Your behavior is disgraceful
There, that took about 5 minutes,hows about them apples ?
HowdyAOL IP addresses change very fast, perhaps every login. My work IP address changes pretty slowly. My home IP address changes at random. Check my posts to see my various addresses and how fast they turn over.
There are a lot of posters whose IP addresses are quite static. And others who "share" IP addresses quite a bit.
As others have said, you've been rude, ignorant and belligerent. You complain about people violating the spirit of the rules and you violate the letter of the rules. You don't have a leg to stand on. I think it's a testament to the tolerance of the bored that you aren't banned. (Remember this isn't a public BBS, it's privately owned and none of us have any "rights" at all.)
The truth is this whole thing spun out of control when the Bored members started posting foul, crude and insulting messages. I have 2 legs to stand on and they are both firmly planted on the ground. Ted, you are one of the Good Ole Boys so your opinion does not carry any weight with me.As far as IP addresses changing that is probably true to some extent, but it doesn't explain some of the postings here and it doesn't explain why certain Boared Members have to make flaming, insulting posts under assumed identities. Btw, I know who made some of them, regardless what you say about IP addresses. I am no fool nor are others here.
This started out having nothing to do with dynamic assigning of addresses but on principle. There was an obvious Rules violation, which I discretely inquired about in order to avoid discord. That was ignored. It happened and again it was deemed "unimportant". The truth is this place has no real rules except those which the Bored deems important enough to them to act upon. That changes with their mood and it obviously depends on their whimsy.They do what they want, when they want, with no accountability to anyone. They just hide behind their anyonymity when it suits them. That is a sad way to run this Forum or to run anything.
As far as them allowing me to stay, I could care less what they do. Numerous Bored members have made anonymous postings flaming and insulting me. So, I can assume they are just waiting and trying to goad me into some drastic action or language to take some final action. I say, do as you will, I don't care.
I am an honest, sincere person who treats others with respect.If you knew me as several decent unpretentious members here do,you would not resort to judging me when you don't even know me. I don't like pedantic, condescending persons who are quite numerous here. I have made my feelings known about that here. Your really have no right to treat others in this fashion. You are a classic example of that type of person. I have seen you and this small core of Regulars continually talk down to persons who just want an answer to a question. I have seen you drive off people by your cursory words. That is the type of place the AA is and you are the type of person who makes it unpleasant.
If people play along with your unwritten rules and kiss your butt, then all is fine. All you have here really is a small core of pedantic egotists who want things done their way only. Well, enjoy your little club, because that is how you treat it, as your personal playground. If it fullfils your life to persist in this manner, then God speed. This place will always be the same with NO growth or development as long as you and this small core of people hold sway.All it amounts to is a Popularity contest, with No regard to the actual rules. This has been proven to me especially this week.
As far as being "rude", you are the eptiome of rudeness. You regularly answer people with crude and condescending remarks, making them feel Totally Unwelcome. Is it any wonder that so few new people actively join in the discussions? No, it is not with your behavior. I don't know where you get off acting with this air of superiority, but it is Very unbecoming.
You can have your playground, I want no part of it. Life is too short to waste valuable time amongst egotists who make rules up as they go along and ignore the posted rules because they don't like someone's personality or attitude. I know this is your life which is sad but if it is that important to you, you can have it all to yourself.
HowdyYou have indeed been both polite to me and rude to me. You were quite polite and friendly ( http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/general/messages/219053.html ) until I asked an innocent question regarding one of your posts ( http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/general/messages/220906.html ). Apparently you assumed that I was being condescending or sarcastic. I guess that I had stepped into a feud between you and jj. (I'm not so good at picking up sarcasm).
I take a lot of care to try to be helpful. In fact many will note that I was trying to explain something that you may or may not have known about IP addresses. Your other posts in this thread indicated that you may have had a misunderstanding about what you really could infer from an IP search here at the asylum.
You claim that I "regularly answer people with crude and condescending remarks". I'm frankly at a loss to understand which of my posts (even the ones I regret posting) have been crude. I suspect that you are not really talking about me but are instead expressing your view of anyone who questions you.
I do draw the line with posts from people who are clearly being disingenuous, who are trolling, or are being outright rude, etc. I have at times been more rude in return than I intended, for example my last post to Todd. I hope these are the exception rather than the rule.
-Ted
Those are all AOL accounts which use a dynamically assigned IP address.
So you say. I don't think that explains all those names appearing under the same address. And, it doesn't explain the 6 names I mentioned in the Subject. "Trollwhacker is one and the same with at least one of those persons. He was obviously concealing his identity for fear of being identified. That is something I don't do.You can't explain away this with a flip answer like that, we are not all as ignorant as you think. For a Bored member you have a foul mouth. Do you eat with that thing too?
You can continue to try to discredit me because you have nothing left to do. My intent was to find out information, not discredit the Audio Asylum. If you want to continue to make it appear that I am doing that then go ahead. All you are doing is showing how indiscrete and underhanded you are, not to mention unprofessional. You shouldn't be on the Board of the local Dogpound. There are some very suspicious and clandestine things going on in the bowels here. Anyone can see what you are up to.
All my activity has been above-board here, you cannot say the same.
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