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In Reply to: Speakers less than $12K posted by NBR on July 24, 2002 at 17:44:49:
Better sound plus less money. Decisions don't come much easier than this.
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Putting the VMPS RM-40 in this catagory is like racing a VW in the Indy 500.Get real. The Kharma and Piegas are the best alternatives given the existing electronics. Sound Labs are great, but you will need some massive monos to enjoy them.
The RM40's would be the indy, the others would be the VW's....dont believe me? Because of the price tags? Add up the price of the drivers, crossover networks, etc? The RM40's will yield parts costly many multiples of the speakers you listed. So where does your $$ go with the ones you listed??.....answer marketing and profit and hoopla.
Hello Dooley. You say I should get real. Well, it can't get any more "real" than this:I was in the market for speakers (as well as most other components). My wife and I were building a new home. My budget for speakers was $16,000. I listened to all the "usual suspects" from $10K up to that price (Thiel, Vandersteen, Martin-Logan, B & W, Sonus Faber, Wilson), as well as 4 other manufacturers in "serious auditions" (Avantgarde, Eggleston, Gershman Acoustics, Revel). Note I heard 15 - 16 more in "casual auditions", including one of your "Indy cars".
Well, after a year and a half, I had decided on Gershman Acoustics. Not just in my head, but through several phone calls with Ofra Gershman, I had come to a "deal". She even sent snapshots of the various finishes for me to select from. She was a pleasure doing business with. This was in January, 2002.
My home wasn't completed until May. In February, I "discovered" VMPS. I had numerous phone conversations with Brian Cheney. I couldn't have been more impressed. When I started asking for information about two of his speakers in that price range, he steered me to the RM40s instead (a third of the cost). This goes against the grain of "Business 101". And it's not like he's having trouble moving RM40s - they are selling like hot cakes.
In the end, I switched from the Opera Sauvage to the RM40s (to mate with KORA amps). It sounds crazy, but after going through 18 months of auditioning, I went with a speaker I couldn't audition, and had never heard down here in Tampa. Of course, after I made my decision, a dealer opened up 4 hours from here - oh well. They sound wonderful.
If you think this is a bunch of bull, go read some of my historical posts on Harmonic Discord. It's all there for the world to see.
I assume you take your stance because you're sure no speaker costing $5,800 (with TRT caps) could possibly compete with $12,000 speakers. After all, there's no free rides, and you get what you pay for, right? However, I also assume you've never heard the RM40s.
It's fine - I understand your position. And without opinions, this board would not be worth coming to.
Well Dooley, is this "real" enough for you??
Excuse me, but did KHARMA's win CES ??
Why wouldnt you put RM 40's in this class ?
Piega's I havent heard, but Kharma's???
sorry Romy, I guess I was being too defensive, sorry
Be more specific Romy, are you trolling ??
Your post implies to me that you dont believe I am who I say I am, is THAT what you are saying??
What kind of a post is this ?
I've got the same discription.I think someone from the bored filled in
the blanks *automagicaly*.
Can't disagree more; I owned Wilson WATT/Puppy 6's for two years and recently upgrades to the VMPS RM-40's w/TRT caps.I'm running Levinson No. 380S and No.333 with SACD front end and Silver Audio cabling. MUCH better sound in all respects than the Wilson's.
It looks like this may be the case. I have 40`s on order with the Auricap upgrade. Think I made a good choice.
I think that statement is always hard to make as it is practically impossible to listen to them all, even just the highly regarded ones but I have yet to find someone who has heard the RM40's and thinks another <$20K speaker sounds better, certainly I haven't. I have heard the usual suspects of Wilson, ML, Revel, Thiel, Dyn (probably my favorite cone speaker, but much different than RM's), ProAc, JMLabs, etc.
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