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In Reply to: Big time - the Mugmaster gets horny posted by DrM on March 23, 2001 at 22:13:55:
Hi Dan,
Which "version" of the Oris 150s did you get? I remember a while ago you asked for comparisons between the PM4A and PM4AER (?) drivers. I was thinking about blowing my bonus money to start a horn based system. Better than blowing it on "ale and whores". :-)I'm going to be moving into a house later this year and am planning on dedicating two rooms for two different 2-ch rigs. So, I figure I may as well take two radically different approaches. Keep my Maggie centered system and start a DIY horn loaded system. I don't think I can go back to conventional "box 'n cone" speakers though.
The MG1.6s are (to me) more musically satisfying than any other box speakers I've heard. But, since I haven't heard any horn loaded speakers, I want to see what all the fuss is about (as someone said earlier).
Chia-Hao
Follow Ups:
Hello,
I decided to get the best - PM4AER, and am COMPLETELY glad I did. As I said I had Maggie 3.6's, AS OTL amps, and liked them enough to start the MUG and Planar asylum. Finally sold them and considered getting out of the hobby beause I just coulnd't get them to SING! Sure they sounded good, but more "doesn't he look natural" than real, live music.I heard a buddy's AvanteGarde Duo's, after a year of tweaking and breakin, and realized "hey, these are pretty damn good!" Then my friend built a pair of Voigt pipes and I realized "Hunh, single driver speakers. GODDAM! These are even better in many respects". The Oris always intrigued me, so I took the 3.6 cash and bought them as an experiment. At least I will have owned boxes, planars, and horns so will know the playing field.
While I wait for Bottlehead iron (which takes *forever*) I have a cheap receiver in there, and my TNT/JMW table as source. This goddam setup makes more music than ANYTHING I've ever heard. More detail, more presence, oh hell, I hate sounding like another audiophile who wets his pants over his latest upgrade, but these are the best speakers I, and my buddy have ever heard. Compared to Maggie, Quads, AG, JMLabs, etc etc. There's nothing worse than a poorly executed horn, and nothing better than one done well.
Get them, get the best drivers you can afford, and end the speaker upgrade battle.
Dan
I believe the saying is "I spent my money on wine, women and song, the rest I just wasted".I'm planning sort of what you are. I have two spare adjoining rooms 16x11 and 12x11 that have a 6' wide arch separating them. I think my listening chair could go roughly in the arch position, so I could just rotate the chair to hear either system. I too want to try a smallish tube and horn system out of curiosity. Some people suggest that now is a good time to buy used gear, so maybe that system will happen much sooner than I was planning.
Hi,
The only thing I'm concerned about is how am I going to have decent sources for both systems if I have them in two different rooms (without spending more money). I may end up with both pairs speakers in the same room, but on opposite sides. I guess it depends on whether I end up keeping both.Chia-Hao
when setting up the first room. Practicality/reality/common sense reared their ugly heads. If you have adjoining rooms too... The rack is now under the arch between the two rooms (in the "middle"), so that sources can be shared. Speakers will be on opposite sides of the dividing wall. I'll just have to move my chair (it's light) between rooms when the second system is established.
> > Practicality/reality/common sense reared their ugly heads. < <It makes sense, you can cut down on components, I'll probably do something similar. Use the same CD player, same pre-amp, just have two different amps and speaker cables to the speakers.
I don't have the house yet, but the floorplans of the houses I've looked at don't have anything like that. I think I'll use two adjacent rooms and feed a pair of interconnects through the wall.
Chia-Hao
it might not be a bad idea to discuss it with your builder. Off the top of my head, a "not too ugly" method might be to have "dummy" outlet boxes installed, near the floor like outlets, on both sides of the dividing wall, exactly opposite each other, very near where you want to put your rack. So you can feed cables through. Cover with suitable plastic plates for neatness, or for when you move. Also, a handy real outlet on a separate breaker for your gear. If you're at the right stage, these things should cost almost nothing extra, but of course can always be done later if you're handy.
nt
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