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In Reply to: Re: come on bob... posted by Bob Neill on May 3, 2007 at 11:10:31:
b,
cardas audio, joule and merlin will attend and show at the rmaf in room 1007 or 1017, not sure which but same room as last year.
this is a good room and perfectly suited to the speakers and the combination. imho, we had sound that i was proud of last year so it should even be better this year with jud's (joule's) new lap 150mk2.
all the gear is wired with cardas and jud and i use each other's gear to design our own. great show and venue too.
see you there.
b
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I have been reading this and it seems that Bob - you like several different speakers, Bobby is a manufacturer so you obviously have a preference in sound are trying to get at what you believe is "the best solution" and jb you like different speakers but you believe them to be in a similar sonic landscape (whatever that means - I would surmise a similar signature the way that I feel most multiple stacked slim lines sound alike to me that follow the NRC camp of design) Ala a Paradigm 100 is similar to what Energy puts out).My question is do you guys like speakers from totally different camps. I have looked over some of my favorite loudspeakers and I have liked stuff from complete opposite ends of the spectrum from Panels to horns to transmission lines to dual concentric (umm Tannoy if I got the dsign name wrong) to undamped boxes from Audio Note with their "out-there" theories. (as you all know this is my preference) but I still like these others and understand why people love them.
I'd be interested to know what speakers sound similar to a current Merlin or what camp one would put them into if possible and what would be viewed as a polar opposite.
I would like to hear Merlin and JMR -- I am in Korea -- any representation here. Harbeth seems to do well here as do some smaller brands not generally represented well in BC Canada like ProAc, Tannoy, Ruark etc.
Any speaker that is designed with tubes in mind is probably more right than wrong in my books even if they're not my first choice. If Merlin is doing that then they would probably be something I would like.
nyc, so i am here today. i just have time to say a few things about your post.from the time i have spent around live music and musicians, i have gained a particular appreciation for a continuous/complete sound and the musical center. some of my musician friends have said "i need to hear the middle of that instrument." so i have spent years trying to get rid of mechanical resonances, electrical resonances, distortions and amplitude irregularities which can all draw your attention away from the oneness, that i like to hear. the use of cryogenics and lead free construction have enabled me to get closer to this ideal than ever before (these are the e versions). and interestingly enough, later versions can also sound wonderful imho, with ss. i never thought this possible.
i personally like, quad electros, soundlab electros, rockports, avalons, kharmas and verity products (not in any particular order). i am sure there are others but that is all i have time to mention or to think of now.
i thank you for you thoughts and sorry, but i have to go.
bobby at merlin
nyc, so i am here today. i just have time to say a few things about your post.from the time i have spent around live music and musicians, i have gained a particular appreciation for a continuous/complete sound and the musical center. some of my musician friends have said "i need to hear the middle of that instrument." so i have spent years trying to get rid of mechanical resonances, electrical resonances, distortions and amplitude irregularities which can all draw your attention away from the oneness, that i like to hear. the use of cryogenics and lead free construction have enabled me to get closer to this ideal than ever before (these are the e versions). and interestingly enough, later versions can also sound wonderful imho, with ss. i never thought this possible.
i personally like, quad electros, soundlab electros, rockports, avalons, kharmas and verity products (not in any particular order). i am sure there are others but that is all i have time to mention or to think of now.
i thank you for you thoughts and sorry, but i have to go.
bobby at merlin
I'm butting in here, but I'm sure Bobby or jb will respond..To me, there is no other speaker(s) that sound quite like Merlin. It's difficult to describe because Merlin speakers are transparent but still retain image density. They can sound warm but not syrupy. They can sound full but not bloated. They have high resolution without being analytical.
They are easy to drive. They sound pretty much like whatever the recording sounds like. But just because they are neutral...they are never boring.
I like the 'sound' of many different speakers too. But so far, none that make me want to give up my Merlins. The general 'character' of the TSM is surprisingly similar to the VSM. They both play larger than their size. And with a sense of 'ease'. The VSM takes it all several notches further than the TSM...but the overall presentation is remarkably similar.
They are worth an audition for any music lover who wants music to sound natural and complete in their home.
As for other speakers I know, I also like Avalon, Verity and JMRs, going from the "colder" side of the musical spectrum to the "warmer". I feel all offer that "oneness" Bobby describes.
JB
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