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In Reply to: Tell me what you don't like about Vandersteen speakers posted by Frihed89 on April 3, 2007 at 12:04:02:
but not in a "it's up to the music way". It's like they make exciting music boring. They don't seem to add anything, but the sure seem to subtract things. Apparently my ears are immune to whatever time/phase alignment is supposed to do.Another thing? The "boxless" claim is annoying hype. They're a minimum baffle, high diffraction (that's bad) kinda design, but hardly boxless. I'd rather have Thiels, despite their problems of addition. At least they make boring music sound exciting rather than exciting music sound boring.
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On the other hand, they have huge soundstaging, precise imaging and lots of resolution in most of the range. They're not boring, at least. :-)
Agree with John. When I auditioned a pair several years ago, they left me unmoved and umimpressed, and they were in an audio friendly dealer's room, set up correctly with McCormack amplification. My Acoustats that I owned at that time just totally outclassed them, as did the other speakers at the dealer (Quads and Mirage M3s).
the latest 2CE mk II's which got introduced at CES, nor have you listened to the last incarnation of the 2CE signatures with the matched drivers. While they may look unchanged, the driver matching has led to a phenomenal increase in detail and imaging, nearly matching (not quite as good of course) as the Quattro and the V's.
If you have not heard the latest models, then you should be careful about drawing certain conclusion. The change slipped in unannounced and the great leap in performance caught me by surprise, too.
Stu
My conclusion was based, as mentioned, on an audition several years ago. I doubt that my impression would radically change today. I mean no ill will towards Vandy owners - I'm sure many would not care for some of my favorite speakers. To me, a great speaker is one that pulls you into the music, presents no harmful distractions, and has enough dynamic range to approximate the ebb and flow of real music. The Vandys I heard just didn't do those things for me.
I wasn't that excited by the 5As either.
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