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In Reply to: REVIEW: Audiokinesis The Swarm Speakers posted by Mickey Bob on April 2, 2007 at 19:21:33:
Thanks for a well written review that any audiophile can relate to.
I have owned the Quads, and used the excellent, but expensive Entec Subwoofers with them.
I know how hard it is to get a seamless blend.
That is one reason I am partial to pre amps with a remote subwoofer volume control!
I wouldn't be w/o it ever again.Audio Relatives and Neices or whatever they are called must be using long X Max drivers to acheive what you are hearing.
Now, the magic question, How Much do it cost ??
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...fifteen hundred dollars for the set. The price may go up over time if (when) my costs go up, but that's where it will start.The production version will have two plate amps instead of just one, so the bass will be in stereo. Now admittedly most recordings are mono below 80 Hz or so, but in cases where a fairly high crossover frequency must be used stereo has advantages. Also, the box-count will be down from five to four, as I'll incorporate the two plate amps into two of the subwoofer enclosures.
My Creek 5350 doesn't have any kind of volume regulated line output, so I had to drive the plate amp from one of my speaker terminals. I don't know if the results would have been much different with a line level out.As to the type of drivers - I don't know if they would be described as "long excursion" drivers. We'll have to ask Duke LeJeune, the designer, about that.
Duke?
As to price - Duke has mentioned a figure but I hesitate to repeat it in case he needs to raise it. He's still researching suppliers and deciding on whether to go with mono or stereo amps, but I'd bet that compared to the big boys, it'll be a bargain. For one thing, I think Duke is planning on selling direct to buyers rather than through a dealer network. He wants the cusotmer's money to end up in their systems and not get soaked up by layers of distribution.
Thanks, Bob.The plate amp in the Swarm has both line-level and speaker-level inputs. The gain may be different, but that should be the only noticeable difference.
The drivers used are "6-inch" nominal diameter, and have a theoretical maximum linear excursion of 13 millimeters. With the tuning I use and with the protective high pass filter built into the plate amps, their maximum excursion requirements should remain below 13 mm in this application.
I bet it will be fairly priced too ?
Duke is well known, liked, and respected here at the Asylum.
His main speaker line seems to represent a good deal for someone wanting to go in that direction.Being a long time Sound Labs Dealer, he has a unique opportunity to compare what he makes to one of the best speakers around, period.
Thanks for the thumbs-up, ka7niq. But mostly I just talk a good game, that's all.
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