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In Reply to: What's your point? Albert is greedy and German's like Wilson products. posted by howard on March 24, 2007 at 02:51:02:
....because the VR2, 4 Jr. and Sr. are a far cry from what he used to offer for much less money. Only the well heeeled can afford a good sounding new VS product anymore. His business model leaves a lot to be desired too.Oz
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Strange, I always associated the name Von Schweikert with a lot of speaker for the money, but never quite had confidence in the name and, conversely, always associated Wilson with some of the worst products when it comes to price/performance ratio and never had any confidence in that name either, associating it with the worst form of gouging and preying on the insecurities of audiophiles. Never heard VS products, but heard some Wilsons (7s) driven by Spectral electronics and was astounded at how bad they actually sounded. They get the spookiness factor right, but familiar voices were reproduced in a way that made them difficult to recognize: a speaker that can't get the midrange right is one bad speaker in my opinion! I had never heard such reproduction.I have heard speakers that are a delight to listen to even if they have less than stellar measurements (Reference Di Capos come to mind and probably most if not all of the Verity models) and some that measure very well and sound marvelous, although often sounding less spooky that what high-enders now like.
Spookiness is now one of my pet expressions for speakers. I have no idea if anyone has coined the expression before, if not I will gladly accept paternity for it and will define it here for you, as best I can:
the quality of a speaker that sounds boxless in that the sound appears to come from all around the speaker, even from behind it, that has great depth to the stereo image, but that more often than not does not have a good octave to octave balance, leaving at least me to believe that the sound is contrived.
Some of the good sounds I heard and I have no idea where these speakers are made or who is behind the product or how they actually measure: Peak Consult.
And sound like music too.
Ran B&w801#3 with krell ksa 250
dealer had Wilson Watt puppy 4.1 I think with rowland amps. HILLED THE b&w 801 hands down on pink floyd
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