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Tube Audio Design is having a sale on their globally mfgr'd subs...are these a good deal?$359 mailed to your door + the cost of DIY pc's and sp cables.
any clue if these could be tweaked a bit? maybe better acoustic material inside the cabinet?the map looks cool, hard to find a torroidal like that in a 150w plate amp.
i'm all about a sub these days, but the small hsu one i have isn't the final solution. these might be though for the $??
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/bizzyb/SUB.html
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there may be some good sub buys to be had.
they look like budget subs found in a Costco, Walmart, etc..Not to mention the feet are a dead give away.
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Do any cheap subs come with good feet? I'd take the solid rubber ones on these over the hollow plastic feet that came with the $250 Hsu sub i ordered 2 months ago anyday. At a higher price point do you get better than the $20 per set Dayton cones from Parts Express?
wait, these subs come with those too....you have to look at all the pics on his site. there's a link to 'More Pictures' under the sub listing on the Bizzy Bee site.Once i outfit the subs with Mapleshade footers (if that ever happens) i'm gonna have a garage sale on cheap metal footers. it'll make 6 sets of crappy heavy brass footers that I own. maybe i can sell them all to get one pair of Mapleshade's???
these subs do look a bit cheesey, i'm relying on the reputation of this guy's other products a whole lot with this purchase.
I'm tempted to post a pic of the amp inside my Hsu sub compared to the pc of the amp inside the subs i just ordered. that's where the REAL story is here.
buy local!!!
matt
my sub's a Dayton Titanic kit!I hope it works out for you!
In fact I'd like to own an HSU myself.
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i shot myself in the foot with the Hsu pruchase, should've purchased a larger one. In terms of internals (amp, construction & acoustic material)...the hsu leaves a lot to be desired though. Maybe the larger units are made better? dunno.As long as these new subs don't rattle (cabinet issues) i can probably tweak any other part. most likely going to add good acoustic material from a local sp builder friend. My Hsu has thin fiberglass insulation in it and the amps' tranny is 'bout the same size as a C battery. after opening it up this weekend I decided to try another brand...then came across the (hopefully) good deal through TAD.
You dont need thick fiberglass inside of a sub enclosureIt means nothing on the design and HSU has a good rep
I noted no serial number on the plate amp in one of the picsWhy would a biz have a internet addy on angelfire?
Stuart,Oh, he uses anglefire as an internet link, he must NOT know how to build audio equipment then! Why if he's legitimately an hi end audio company producing wonderfully sounding equipment, he would have his own website, right? Something in the line of, say, "Tubeaudiodesign.com"? Oh wait! he DOES have a website called "Tubeaudiodesign"! So do you still "smell something not right"?
I can not believe how some people would judge a person without having had any correspondence with him first, 'cause if they had, they would know that Paul Gryzbek is one of the most helpful, courteous, knowlegable guys in audio today. No, he does not have a big company, he does not have many people working for him. But he stands behind his products, answers emails the same day, will help you with any problems or just shoot the breeze; all this is not to be discounted or taken for granted.
If he neglects to put serial #'s, it's obviously not part of his business practice, not because the amps suck. If there EVER is a problem with his amps, he WILL service them and he WILL resolve the issues. Serial # or no serial #. But chances are, you're never need service on his amps, just change out the tubes when they go south.
Now that the fishy smell has cleared, I look forward to a review of these subs by Matt.
RELAX AND HAVE A BEER WILL YAOne learns to look and question practices on the internet
concerning fraud
I've been doing great with a tweaked single KLH super cheapo 10" powered sub for years. Bought it at Costco.You don't have to have the best stuff in the world to get reasonably good sound in the sub category. The issue is more placement.
So a pair at that price seems to me to be a good potential investment. No bragging rights, mind you, but still....
Had I the money I'd invest in the matching VRS/1 sub from Von Schweikert to go with my VR1 speakers. I've auditioned it and it's wonderful! REally matched beautifully inside and out and it's also the smallest sub I've ever seen. But that's another $1600! Not quite your $400/pair.
He says the list is over 1500 bucks for two of them but he will now well them for under 400 bucks? Something does not seem right here. Great for you if it is real. I would check him out real well before parting with my money. Cheers.
$350 for 2 - 12" subs & amps that look decent, i had to give this a try, been dyin to hear deep stereo bass. the owner's good reputation has been reported often on the 'net as well. his shop is only 30 min from me too, helps.there's really only 2 locations in my room for the subs now, but will be moving soon & may get more options then. they can go side-by-side in the area where the single sub sits now, or in each corner about 5' behind the speakers. only problem with this is one of the corners is not a true corner..its a 45 degree angled window that's 6' wide. the other corner is the $ spot for the single sub, best sounding part of the room.
if they have to go side-by-side in a corner, how do I point them left or right??
should be fun though.
> if they have to go side-by-side in a corner, how do I point them left or right?? <I wouldn't worry too much about which way to point them. You will have enough issues on your hands trying to tame the boomy bass you are going to get.
Oz
there's no boom whatsoever with just one hsu sub. and, once its dialed in you can't 'hear' its location.I realize adding 2 larger driver units might be opening a can of worms though!
the michael green audio Room Tunes Deluxe kit has been awesome so far, for this budget o' file. the new subs might test the RT kits' ability to control bass though.
My room is such an odd shape. hopefully i can get each of these behind a speaker and not set them side-by-side.
Matt,Corner positioning a sub almost always result in boomy bass. Not to mention one tend to hear the sub as a distintive object where bass is coming from, drawing your attention to it. Can you put one each behind your main speakers, and experimenting with firing the subs away and towards each other? I wold think two subs in a corner side by side as you describe would be boomy hell, very localizable. But do experiment and report back, thanks. Have fun!
Matt,My goodness! The price is really $349 for a PAIR of subs! Unbelievable! Please buy them and report back to us, I (we) want to know how they perform!
When you do get them, do not position them or any sub with its front facing forward. Rather face it left of right and move it a couple of feet away from corners. The bass will be cleaner and more seamless. I have read that positioning the sub along the same line (+/- 1") as the main speakers help integration as well. I still have to try this since my sub sits behind my left channel main speaker and faces right. With two subs, I wonder if I would face them firing toward each other or away and into the side walls. Sure requires some experimentation there. Either way, at $349, sure sounds like a cheap way to have fun.
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