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In Reply to: What are cost effective and quality ways to raise a floorstander 3 inches? posted by NDalfriend@aol.com on February 20, 2007 at 01:12:08:
Try some Maple platforms. Stone or concrete will sound terrible...
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why would a solid mass of sand and lime placed solidly onto any flooring material under a speaker sound terrible? would it sound worse than a sand damped steel box (e.g. 'stands')? it's resonant frequency is damped by the floor! at that point, it's primarily just mass between the floor and speaker-- it's not as if it's a solid concrete floor causing reflections, and i would think would be LESS prone to cause undue resonances than a more porous material, even as dense as maple.PLUS.. if you're taking it to brass tacks-- would that be kiln or air dried maple? apparently, there's distinguishable sonic differences there too.. and last i checked, mapleshade's 2" 'air dried maple' blocks were not what you would call 'cost effective', unless your other options include solid invisible unobtainium speaker levitation devices, or solid gold blocks. i hear those are pretty massive though ... ;).
get with it bro!!!!
i dig it's a hobby thoroughly and completely-- and i dig that absorptive ain't reflective.. no offense meant whatsoever to your statements, which are true- theres surely differences.BUT.. a $415 pair of air dried maple slabs, despite my 'withitude' still ain't cost effective for most folks, no matter how deep i'm in the hobby.
so in regards to the original question of 'good cost effective 4" supports for speaks', my bro in audi-O, the answer is not b)several very expensive (albeit for good reason-- this coming from a professional woodworker) blocks of wood which equal 2 weeks of groceries for a family of 3- see what i mean? i'd sure rather have maple slabs under MY speaks...
not bustin' yer balls, for real-- i heart maple a whole lot, love the sonics, and in fact use maple under a CDP in my own system.. but i was trying to help as asked.
like i said-- no 'fense to you at all!
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No issues! i hadn't had my morning coffee.Spending $ on tonewood is completely bizarre...
My biggest problem, very recent problem, is the addition of not 1 but 2 difft 4" thick mapleshade speaker platforms...the Ultra bedrock and the normal floorstanding plinths.
My floorstanders reside on top of the Ultra Bedrocks & a Hsu STF-1 sub sits on top 1 4" thick sp plinth and the other plinth has the brass footers removed and sits uner my TT. Both the sub and TT have MS footers betw them and the 4" maple.
i can't afford this shit, but do know the MS air dried has WAY more music than the 2" or 3" thick kiln dried boards from timbernation.
i'm lookin for a 2nd job!
My sub sitting on the footers and 4" maple is quite insane. Odd enough, my speaks sound good sitting on the Ultra Bedrocks, but this obvioulsy isn't what Pierre had in mind for the UB's...
years back i tried speaks sittin on stone tiles and thick commercial glass panes, they all sucked. BUT, a lot depends on the floor's surface and subsurface..not sure if the orig poster mentioned his set-up.
You are right, air dried versus kiln dried is a destructive truth...destructive to my wallet.i have a bevy of 2" thick, 3" thick & 4" thick plats from both timbernation and mapleshade. Only the MS boards are air dried, and they sound wildy difft. HOWEVER, tn now has air dried boards if you are curious.
The reason stone kinda sucks is the way it deals with vibrations...it does not absorb them. Absorbing them, rather than throwing them back into the speaker cabinets, might net a much better sound.
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