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In Reply to: The shortcomings of 'high-end' sound posted by njjohn on March 3, 2007 at 15:06:46:
Hi John, When I listened to an OTL amp, it sounded almost exactly like my unmodified Sonic Impact amp. The music is almost steril and does not wrap around me like my/your 300B amp does. On another topic: we just painted the inside of our house in prep to list it, so I've had to shuffle many things. As you know, I sold off my Edgarhorns to help fund our business and have been listing to the 1951 Stromberg-Carlsons in beautifull BR corner cabs. Well, I was moving my office and put my Omega Super 3Rs on top of the SCs while I painted the office. I decided, just for grins, to hook up the Omegas to see the difference between the SCs and Omegas. I am soooo sorry I did that. The Omegas suck compared to the SCs. I still can't believe it, they are thin, nasily, lack bottom but greatly detailed....and I can tell exactly where the music is coming from. No sound stage what so ever. It might be that instead of a 10X12 office they are in a 27x32 family room....do you think that would have an effect? Cheers.
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I have really enjoyed the super 3's I have. I had them at my desktop and they were great. When I stepped back a few feet from the desk, they also sounded real good like that too.Some of the vintage speakers are just really good. Their engineering was pretty amazing.
Maybe single drivers don't match up sometimes to two and three way speaker systems especially some vintage one.
In certain situations though, they can be preferred or have an advantage.
The single drivers are more upfront, and maybe I prefer them with the upfront sound of the 45. The two way and three way speakers have a little more of like getting lost into the speaker, more dimensional, and they fit the 300b very well.
I like both effects. Both are different effects but they seem to arrive at similar in the room realism.
You probably know more about speakers than I do. You had the Edgarhorns. I wish I could hear them.
Hi John, I should have added that the Super 3Rs are great close in speakers. In my office, as computer speakers, they are great. I think that they are just too small for that big room. Cheers.
> > > Omegas suck compared to the SCs. I still can't believe it, they are thin, nasily, lack bottom but greatly detailed....and I can tell exactly where the music is coming from. No sound stage what so ever < < <Yep, that sounds similar to how many people describe the Fostex sound. Despite that and being at the end of a less than tonally well-developed system, Omega fans (sycophants?) on their forum have loved / hyped these types of speakers.
A word of caution to the new: never blindly believe what one reads on forums, *especially* manufacturer forums. It seems to me that Omega guys upgrade their 'speakers far too often to indicate long-term satisfaction, value, and therefore quality. One needs to look at performance over time and read between the lines. To qualify: 1) I do not think anything malicious is going on @ Omega (perhaps the customers lack a little understanding of what is required for long-term satisfaction tho) - Louis seems a genuine guy, that has to make a $, 2) yes, djn's family room is probably too large and the Omegas may perform better if properly set up, 3) Omega's new hemp drivers may improve the transduction of the tunes, relative to the Fostex drivers, and 4) this type of forum and purchasing behaviour is not unique to Omega. 'nuff said.
Cheers
Raymond
Ultra-consumers: Spending money they do not have to buy things they do not need to impress people they do not like.
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