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In Reply to: Paul Kantner sued for using 'Starship' name posted by LWR on March 23, 2007 at 08:19:26:
... if the suit is to stop Kantner using the name Jefferson Starship, and he is playing as Paul Kantner's Starship it appears to be a non-starter as he isn't using the name.
Once again the old truism that the only people getting rich are the lawyers and drug dealers seems at least half right.
Wasn't there a moment in JS history where more members used to be in The Elvin Bishop Band than any previous Jefferson ... line-up?
I seem to remember that.
Ah well, they used to want to fight for the planet, or the end of the war, now there's just the money.
Plus ca change...
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Mickey Thomas and the drummer Baldwin (can't remember his first name...) were with Elvin Bishop for a few years before they were in the Starship thingystuff. I agree about the lawyers and the drug dealers, though at this point with these folks it's probably the legal drug dealers, aka the pharmaceuticals. That's were the big dough is to be had...
"I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
-Thomas Edison
and who was once in a band with Dave Jenkins from Pablo Cruz. That band with the 2 of them I road managed and struggled with to get them recognized.....
Donny and Mickey did play with EB, however neither were original members of the JA. I, of course, had a senior moment and read the question as being Jefferson Airplane.
I cannot recall the name that Dave and Donny had for that band....things were so screwed up that some guy that Dave knew invited us all up to his "ranch" in Oregon to live and practice for a northwest bar tour. So we all load up all the crap and after a couple of weeks we set off. During that 2 weeks I lined up something like 20 gigs. We arrive at the "ranch" and our housing consists of several 2 man pup-tents along the river. There was a nice wooden stage to practice on. Nowhere on the entire "ranch" (about one acre) was there electricity. Needless to say we slunk back to Palo Alto and the whole shot at fame evaporated.....
After my house burned down, my girlfriend and I were taken in by Phil and Joni Scoma, he of the Chocolate Watchband. Phil introduced me to DJ and DB.
Nice trip down memory lane
Saw him many times with EB, a band I saw more than any other. At the height of his popularity, circa 1976, EB would play the Old Waldorf in SF frequently and a friend of a friend would open, so we'd get in on the guest list. Some pretty great shows, and EB's music was always perfect for accompaning the drugs and the booze AND the booze and the drugs, which we consumed with wild, passionate abandon. Another friend lived with Elvin's sister and I vaguely remember a party at their place with members of the Marshal Tucker Band and EB's band. Vaguely.
Must have been a good party...I was jelly in this period of time. Grape I think, but possiblly a muti-fruit blend.
Nice rememberance from you about your experience(s) with Jenkins and Baldwin and sorry to hear the about the subsequent tragedy of Phil Scoma.
"I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
-Thomas Edison
I went looking on the net for Phil Scoma.....I am not at all happy with what I found.
He seems suspiciously young.
how many Phil and Joanie (looks like she remarried) Scomas can there be in a small town? It explains his absence at the recent Chocolate Watchband reunions...not an original member....but a player in the band...
I have been deeply bummed out to see this turn of fate. A couple who reached out for me and RJ when we only had our clothes we were wearing at the time, a car and our 2 cats. Took us in, fed us, bought us clothes, gave us shelter and cried with us.
Phil could nail you to the wall with his guitar artistry.....
the singer Danny Phay died when he fell asleep in bed. This was in Shady Grove, Oregon. I had been drinking shots with him earlier that night.
I will now have a drink to the days of old......
- http://www.amazon.com/Melts-Your-Brain-Not-Wrist/dp/B0007RFONE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4448155-9581464?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1174786632&sr=8-1 (Open in New Window)
bleep
none played with Elvin, however there were numerous jams....I recall none of them for at the time I was jelly.
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