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Have you heard them? They capture the essence and spirit of CCR

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In Reply to: IT is a joke, and a scam. John Fogerty was CCR; posted by Duilawyer on February 4, 2007 at 12:04:54:

more so than Fogarty does (at least in that Fillmore video/CD from a few years back), which is ironic and troubling, but not that surprising.
Those guys are still at it for the love of the music AND to make a living. All they are really missing is Fogerty, sans his ego, though I feel HE (and the songs) are missing them more than vice versa. That rythm section captures those grooves and plays those licks with more soul, verve and feeling than ALL the L.A. professional hired hands that Fogarty can afford to buy, and remain true to the songs. They have every right to be playing those songs and keeping the spirit alive from one of the greatest bands ever. They were an integral part of the BAND that was CCR. They are neither a joke or a scam.

"I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
-Thomas Edison

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there was no band other than Fogerty. They were untalented sidemen. - Duilawyer 14:01:09 02/04/07 (13)
I have an article somewhere from a guy who opened for them with his band, an the concensus was it was Fogerty and 3 guys named Joe. "They hve every right" ? Their contributions were minimal, at best.
- Bullshit, have you ever even listened to CCR? You have an ARTICLE by - musetap 15:25:35 02/04/07 (5)
  some jackass that you base this on? "Untalented sidemen"? You have ears on either side of that brain? They were a BAND for several years before CCR, and the fact they had a particularly gifted singer/songwriter in Fogarty that elevated them to greatness does not detract from that. Those original songs performed by anyone else would NOT be/sound the same with other musicians. Fogarty was brilliant, the others VERY talented. Listen to Fogarty's continually dissappointing LPs over the past 35 years for proof.
  
  "I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
  -Thomas Edison
  - Let me guess, their drummer was great, right? And their bassist? - Duilawyer 15:32:05 02/04/07 (4)
    BTW, I saw them in person right when Bayou Country was peaking. There was Fogerty and some other guys. They were of little talent, and no import.
    - No import? Fogarty woulda sounded quite lonesome without them! But - musetap 16:38:18 02/04/07 (3)
      then, I think he always aspired to be Hank Williams...
      And if they were of little talent you think he'd want them on stage with him?
      Have you seen Fogarty since then? Listened to any of his solo LPs?
      
      "I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
      -Thomas Edison
      - you cannot prove they were good by the fact his current band is bad. - Duilawyer 19:03:28 02/04/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: No import? Fogarty woulda sounded quite lonesome without them! But posted by musetap on February 4, 2007 at 16:38:18:
        
        Don't work. His current bands sound different, he is not finding musicians to simply recreate the early parts. I liked the real Creedence, But I know the difference between "I like that band" and "They're great musicians". Two different concepts.
      - Got a great Fogerty DVD - Road Warrior 17:45:34 02/04/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: No import? Fogarty woulda sounded quite lonesome without them! But posted by musetap on February 4, 2007 at 16:38:18:
        
        In fact it's our show off the system DVD. Plays tons of songs HE wrote and a lot of his solo stuff. Miss his old sidemen? LOL. Hardly. I rather like his solo LPS I have. Centerfield, Eye Of The Zombie, the one with Almost Saturday Night. Even have his latest CD that's got one killer and a lot of filler. Much rather see him than some band covering his tunes. And that's what CCR is now, a cover band.
        
        "E Burres Stigano"
        
        well put. mt - Duilawyer 19:04:04 02/04/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Got a great Fogerty DVD posted by Road Warrior on February 4, 2007 at 17:45:34:
        
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- For once I have to agree - plantsman 15:11:10 02/04/07 (1)
  Doug Sahm used Clifford & Cook on one of albums and they are the stiffest rhythm section he ever recorded with.
  Moby Grape is an entirely different story.
  - stiff is the nicest thing you could say. nt - Duilawyer 15:32:49 02/04/07 (0)
    ,
- they were good enough for Fogerty and that should be good enough for the rest of us. nt - dave c 15:05:04 02/04/07 (4)
  bleep
  - and he left becaue of their immense talent? THEY were NOT GOOD - Duilawyer 15:33:47 02/04/07 (3)
    enough. He outgrew them.
    - Fogerty needs his Bandmates - ozzyboy 15:15:48 02/11/07 (0)
      Fogerty new stuff sounds like sissy music. No substance.
      Even his voice sounds less mature than it did in Creedence.
      I think when they were a band that they all added their chops to make the CCR Sound. Doug Clifford is an excellent drummer, perfect for Fogerty's songs. That what made them great as CCR.
      John Fogery was a highly talanted song writer, but those days seem gone.
      John Fogerty cannot get in the creative world without his bandmates adding or subtracting what Fogerty has in his head.
      Thats what bandmates of equal do for the creation process. Look at the Beatles, The Stones , the whole is better than the individual parts.
    - He left because of his immense ego, which caused his career to tailspin... - musetap 16:49:02 02/04/07 (1)
      and his solo career was ALL based on the immense success of CCR. He never attained that level of popularity, nor IMO, musical vitality again. Coincidence? He may have outgrown them, but that has never been proved by his solo output or his commercial popularity ( for what that's worth)...
      
      "I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
      -Thomas Edison
      - Re: He left because of his immense ego, which caused his career to tailspin... - Sour milk moon 15:31:56 02/05/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: He left because of his immense ego, which caused his career to tailspin... posted by musetap on February 4, 2007 at 16:49:02:
        
        Exactly. Too many people dwell on "great musicianship" but I gotta say those CCR records sound mighty good, and a good chunck of folks agree who bought them. I coud list a slew of
        "allright" players who made (and make) great records and as many great players who made drudge ( about 3/4 of George Benson's for example).
        They were fine for what they were doing and what they were doing sounded great. I'll add that the same goes for The Beatles and The Stones and....

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